assistance in choosing matching gear.

[Detective Shers]

hey. so I’m going for a PMC look / plainclothed special forces. 

but im stuck between the pentagon softshell or condor one, both look good to me.

this would be alongside a tan mopc, but I’m trying to get them to match. so tan / coyote brown. but each picture changes there colour.

in short the uniform would be a softshell hoodie ( tan ) mopc carrier ( tan ) blue jeans, black  combat boots and the rest. like glasses, cap ( grey/tan ) and gloves ( black ) alongside german patches on each shoulder, the cap and of course the firearm. which would be a MP5. plus a HK pistol.

picture below is a reference. thanks. 

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[Seven]

From the pictures I've seen of both, the pentagon seems a lighter/brighter tan while the condor is darker.

The beauty of online shopping is that you can order something and if you don't like it you can just send it back in its original condition (ie unworn) without a fuss. You may have to pay return postage but some places even provide a return label for no charge.

That's really the only way to know the real shade difference.

But personally, from my very limited research for the purpose of this thread, I would be going with Pentagon.

They actually list breathability and water resistance ratings, which I don't see from condor, which would lead me to believe that pentagon have faith in their quality and performance a little more. A bit more pride in the product.

Overall I just think, again remembering limited research, that the pentagon is the better product.

 

[Detective Shers]

do you think the tan condor mopc would work, alongside that.

 

[Seven]

do you think the tan condor mopc would work, alongside that.

Would it work? Sure!

Would it be identical in shade? Maybe.

Same can be said for the condor softshell though.

Only way to know for sure is to buy them and see. The one that is furthest from the correct shade gets sent back.

The pictures of the softshells I've seen all seem to say that the condor is the darker of the two.

 But every picture of the rig looks a different shade.

Could be lighting differences, camera differences, natural variation, anything.

You could always throw the rig in the wash to lighten it up if it's too dark.

 

[Tommikka]

There is a key flaw there in getting a perfect match for a PMC / special forces

Those jobs are not a fashion parade, function beats fashion.

In uniformed roles the colours do not precisely match - different materials, age, wear and washing, let alone in non uniformed roles

 

[Detective Shers]

can anyone tell me what carrier that is. plus the jacket, colours and other parts of the image. 

Im hoping to recreate it as a german ksk plainclothes loadout.

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[Albiscuit]

 and other parts of the image. 

The bits on the right of the image are trees, bottom left are jeans, blue if I am not mistaken and the floor looks sand/tan coloured   

Sorry boring day at work...

 

[MagpieTactical]

Definitely some sky there too.

 

[Lozart]

It's not a "carrier" it's a chest rig. But no, I (and probably a great many others) cannot work out what that particular bit of tactical nylon is from that picture. It's somewhat akin to taking a picture of the inside of a cars wheel arch and asking what colour the seats are. You just can't see it from that angle.

Give us some better pics and let's try again!

 

[Seven]

There is a key flaw there in getting a perfect match for a PMC / special forces

Those jobs are not a fashion parade, function beats fashion.

In uniformed roles the colours do not precisely match - different materials, age, wear and washing, let alone in non uniformed roles

Very true, but people will do what people will do!

 

[TheFull9]

Based on what's visible, I'd say the base rig is a US issued FLC in DCU/Desert Tri-colour:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-DCU-MOLLE-II-Fighting-Load-Carrier-w-2-Double-Mag-Pouches-FLC-VEST-US-Army/191511887334?hash=item2c96ff7de6:g:kCwAAOSwqu9U376x:sc:USPSPriority!10016!US!-1:rk:1f:1&frcectupt=true

Knife is a Gerber LMF 2, Blackhawk SERPA Level 2 holster.  This pic is clearly from years ago though, people haven't been setting up ARs like that for nearly a decade now.  That quad rail handguard and those types of magpul accessories that are alllll over the gun are well out of fashion.  It would definitely be expensive and difficult to replicate that rifle exactly but it depends how exact you want to be.

 

[MagpieTactical]

Based on what's visible, I'd say the base rig is a US issued FLC in DCU/Desert Tri-colour:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-DCU-MOLLE-II-Fighting-Load-Carrier-w-2-Double-Mag-Pouches-FLC-VEST-US-Army/191511887334?hash=item2c96ff7de6:g:kCwAAOSwqu9U376x:sc:USPSPriority!10016!US!-1:rk:1f:1&frcectupt=true

Knife is a Gerber LMF 2, Blackhawk SERPA Level 2 holster.  This pic is clearly from a long ago though, people haven't been setting up ARs like that for nearly a decade now.  That quad rail handguard and those types of magpul accessories that are alllll over the gun are well out of fashion.  It would definitely be expensive and difficult to replicate that rifle exactly but it depends how exact you want to be.

Have people been wearing Infidel patches for that long?

 

[TheFull9]

Mil-Spec Monkey (amongst others) has been making those for yeeeeeeears now.  What boils down to a conflict between western christian ideas and middle-eastern islamic ones is hardly a new thing after all, if you want to take a true wide-angle-lens look at it.

Also the FLC stopped being gucci gear a decent number of years ago, as did ARs in that style, as I say.

 

[Tommikka]

Have people been wearing Infidel patches for that long?

Yes

Infidel patches & t shirts were definitely about 10 years ago.

Remember that the Twin Towers went down over 17 years ago, Gulf war one was 28 years ago ....

 

[MagpieTactical]

can anyone tell me what carrier that is. plus the jacket, colours and other parts of the image. 

Im hoping to recreate it as a german ksk plainclothes loadout.

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This thread suggests it's a condor jacket from 5 years ago

http://nouky.pro-forum.fr/t990-softshell-condor

 

[Jedi_Master]

@Detective Shers Jeans are not a good idea. They are an impractical item of clothing. They lack the freedom of movement that technical trousers provide; generally do not have secure and extra pockets for magazines; they do not dry quickly when wet; jeans show up too much in low light. 

 

[Immortal]

Chuck Norris used to have a range of stretchy jeans so you could do high kicks... :lol:

 

[Rogerborg]

plainclothed special forces

"What uniform do all special forces wear so that they're not easily identifiable?"

 

[Jedi_Master]

"What uniform do all special forces wear so that they're not easily identifiable?"

Polo shirt, fleece, Barbour jacket, jeans and desert wellies... back in the day  

 

[Druid799]

The upside down pouch next to the LMF is the strap cutter that comes with the knife (I know as I’ve had one for yrs !) and if you draw a straight line down from the magazine you can see some white ? Unless I’m very mistaken I think that a pile of crap cleaned up from the range .?