AA G36

[Dan Robinson]

Couple of questions if you dont mind, as it's my first GBBR...

• How do you adjust the hop on this....I'm guessing clockwise (as you look down the barrel) increases?
  
• Given a reasonably full gas bottle, how long does it take to charge the 30 round mags?
  
• Do they do slightly higher capacity mags?  Say 150 bbs rather than 30.
  
• How compatible are WE spares - I've read about the pot metal used in these things ?.
  
• How strong is the folding stock?  Would I be nuts to use it for a sling?
  

As always,  tah in advance.

 

[RostokMcSpoons]

Congrats on your new gat, and welcome to the Gas Blow Back Flexors Club.  You'll find your smoking jacket and glass of fine brandy or champagne will be provided by Jeeves very shortly ?

 

[Dan Robinson]

Gas Blow Back Fixers Club

Hopefully it doesn't turn into this club. 

 

[C-Diddy]

Congrats on your new gat, and welcome to the Gas Blow Back Flexors Club.  You'll find your smoking jacket and glass of fine brandy or champagne will be provided by Jeeves very shortly ?

 

[Asomodai]

Couple of questions if you dont mind, as it's my first GBBR...

• How do you adjust the hop on this....I'm guessing clockwise (as you look down the barrel) increases?
  
• Given a reasonably full gas bottle, how long does it take to charge the 30 round mags?
  
• Do they do slightly higher capacity mags?  Say 150 bbs rather than 30.
  
• How compatible are WE spares - I've read about the pot metal used in these things ?.
  
• How strong is the folding stock?  Would I be nuts to use it for a sling?
  

As always,  tah in advance.

Yup

15 seconds? if it's a silent fill valve, you wont lose much gas if you overgas it anyway. 

Nope

Yes, practically the same rifle. 

Eh, I never use that position on any G36 rifles. 

 

[Dan Robinson]

Yup

15 seconds? if it's a silent fill valve, you wont lose much gas if you overgas it anyway. 

Nope

Yes, practically the same rifle. 

Eh, I never use that position on any G36 rifles. 

Perfect,  cheers. 

BTW, I'm taking my pews at the weekend, but my knee is still Donald Ducked from last gameday, getting a new brace today, so we'll see how things go for Monday. ?

 

[CrackCommandoUnit1972]

As far as I know, its a clone of the WE G36 so should be compatable with any WE spares. RA Tech do a load of parts for the G36 but I would just leave it stock until it breaks.

However, I have a few RA Tech parts in my WE G36. I don't know if the AA version has a plastic charging handle, if so, I would recommend getting a metal one as this will 100% break on you.

 

[Dan Robinson]

I don't know if the AA version has a plastic charging handle

Yeah - the little handle bit on the end is plastic with a rather small looking pin holding it on.  So will look at getting a spare in...// [scroll forward20 minutes]...  you gotta love oriental websites and their horrible layouts ?

Found it on page 37....   http://en.ratech.com.tw/english/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=176:rag-we-094&catid=27&Itemid=119

And in the UK - https://www.milspecsolutions.co.uk/gas-blowback-parts/we-rifle-parts/we-g36-(999)-parts/WE-G36-(999)-Cocking-Handle-Set.html  for my future reference as much as anything...  https://www.milspecsolutions.co.uk/ra-tech-we-g36-g39-series-charging-handle.html

Gave the barrel a nice clean, so will have a play with some mags tomorrow and see what can be done with the hop.

 

[CrackCommandoUnit1972]

What FPS are you getting from it? On a hot day my WE one can shoot well over 400fps and it needs a NPAS and weaker gas to get it close to be usuable.

 

[Dan Robinson]

I have had a bit of a roller coaster on that one.

A full mag will be well over 400 using ASG Ultra Air Gas.  After a few shots it bounces around between  250 and 340.  I shall load one up and post some chrono pics...  My butane bottle adapter isn't coming until next week.  I'm hoping the much bigger bottles will give a more consistent fill pressure.

 

[Dan Robinson]

Well, I've run 7 mags through on the Ultra Air - although I think that can is near empty:  





360.9


 


367


 


335.6


 


342.4


 


227


 


244.4


 


257.3




378.7


 


43.7


 


217.3


 


243.6


 


226.8


 


71.1


 


255.4




117


 


363.7


 


180.4


 


237.8


 


82.3


 


105.4


 


256.4




374.5


 


359.7


 


249


 


263.8


 


258.4


 


220.3


 


254.8




381.1


 


250.8


 


230.9


 


233.9


 


289.3


 


128


 


64.3




326


 


319.1


 


309.6


 


231.8


 


279.2


 


198.2


 


251.6




296.1


 


350.4


 


322.5


 


230.3


 


286.2


 


273.5


 


253.7




368.2


 


260.6


 


322.5


 


161.1


 


279.9


 


170.9


 


212.1




324.2


 


356.1


 


319.1


 


241.4


 


279.2


 


47.6


 


250.5




367.6


 


342.8


 


317.4


 


242.2


 


286.2


 


7


 


270.4




365.9


 


339


 


312


 


234.6


 


279.9


 


270.1


 


265.9




368.7


 


342.3


 


311.2


 


232.3


 


281.8


 


273.8


 


262.6




160.3


 


184.4


 


309.6


 


252.4


 


279.5


 


251.6


 


241.7




338.5


 


337.5


 


306.4


 


236.2


 


277.3


 


265.6


 


260.1




265.3


 


364.2


 


303.3


 


239.7


 


278.6


 


233.4


 


260.4




356.6


 


205.5


 


301.4


 


231.8


 


278.9


 


266.2


 


258.7




308.8


 


152.8


 


297.6


 


237.6


 


255.9


 


267.6


 


256.7




353


 


109.2


 


395.4


 


164.4


 


272.2


 


267


 


255.6




354


 


164.5


 


293.2


 


231.6


 


278.9


 


266.7


 


216.98




355.1


 


176.8


 


287.3


 


231.6


 


277.9


 


267.3


 


257.3




346.3


 


274.9


 


299.1


 


234.8


 


276


 


265.3


 


257.3




347.3


 


325.6


 


287.6


 


234.1


 


274.4


 


243.4


 


253.7




343.3


 


330.1


 


173.7


 


226.8


 


259.8


 


261.2


 


252.4




345.3


 


 


 


290


 


189


 


267


 


264.1


 


250




343.3


 


 


 


280.5


 


227.2


 


273.8


 


260.9


 


249




 


 


 


 


277.6


 


226.6


 


274.7


 


265.6


 


247.9




 


 


 


 


275.3


 


229.87


 


272.2


 


258.9


 


247.2




 


 


 


 


277.6


 


99.3


 


274.7


 


217.1


 


247.7




 


 


 


 


 


 


55.6


 


 


 


46.2


 


246.9




 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


250




 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


244.1




F


 


 


 


 


 


F


 


 


 


 


 


194.7




 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


248.2




 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


246.9







Then another 7 through with Abbey 144a:





355.1


 


321.56


 


300.2


 


234.1


 


295.8


 


279.5


 


263.2




335.6


 


193.1


 


287.2


 


 


 


287.3


 


283.5


 


262.1




336.1


 


318.2


 


289.3


 


241.2


 


290.7


 


279.2


 


262.1




331


 


319.9


 


289.3


 


246.2


 


289.3


 


280.2


 


261.5




328.7


 


311.6


 


295


 


252.4


 


286.6


 


2894.2


 


261.1




68


 


317.8


 


294.3


 


258.4


 


287.3


 


280.8


 


256.7




323.4


 


311.6


 


291.1


 


263.2


 


289.3


 


282.2


 


261.8




327.4


 


322.9


 


291.8


 


262.4


 


285.5


 


276.3


 


253.2




322.5


 


314.4


 


290.7


 


263.8


 


285.9


 


281.2


 


252.1




322.5


 


314.4


 


291.5


 


265.6


 


287.3


 


281.5


 


232.1




321.2


 


310.8


 


287.9


 


265.3


 


285.5


 


278.6


 


251.1




319.9


 


304.4


 


290.4


 


269.1


 


287.3


 


279.2


 


249.8




283.5


 


304.8


 


290


 


263.8


 


290


 


276.9


 


255.6




285.2


 


310.8


 


267.9


 


266.4


 


284.5


 


273.1


 


302.1




314.9


 


305.2


 


289.3


 


266.4


 


284.5


 


252.9


 


245.6




314.4


 


 


 


289.7


 


267


 


283.2


 


272.2


 


244.9




313.2


 


 


 


289.3


 


270.7


 


284.2


 


271.3


 


181.4




312.4


 


 


 


289


 


270.1


 


284.2


 


270.1


 


244.4




310.4


 


 


 


288.3


 


269.8


 


285.5


 


271.9


 


242.4




307.6


 


 


 


285.5


 


272.2


 


282.5


 


264.4


 


 




308


 


 


 


290


 


271.9


 


279.9


 


267.3


 


 




306


 


 


 


288.6


 


275


 


283.8


 


266.2


 


 




305.6


 


 


 


287.3


 


273


 


279.5


 


270.7


 


 




310.4


 


 


 


268.5


 


0.1


 


280.2


 


269.5


 


 




306.4


 


 


 


286.6


 


273.8


 


279.5


 


267


 


 




302.5


 


 


 


284.9


 


275.7


 


278.9


 


266.4


 


 




304.4


 


 


 


285.5


 


277.6


 


284.2


 


263.5


 


 




302.1


 


 


 


287.9


 


271.9


 


278.6


 


241.9


 


 




 


 


 


 


286.6


 


283.2


 


281.2


 


275


 


 




 


 


 


 


285.2


 


282.8


 


296.5


 


271.3


 


 




 


 


 


 


287.3


 


279.2


 


285.2


 


263.2


 


 




F


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 




 


 


 


 


F


 


F


 


 


 


 


 


E




 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 




Abbey 144a:



 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 










The F denotes the load that was refilled with gas.

There are some anomalies, which I am hoping was down to the fact there were a few pre-fired BBs in that bottle.

More worryingly, a metal pin has fallen out of my of the pews - it could be a Glock, the 1911, the Auto 9 or the new G36.  

Sad times. ?

 

[CrackCommandoUnit1972]

Those are some whacky numbers there.

Sometimes, with Gbbr's it not about the consistancy, it's the experience.

Post a pic of the pin, some airsoft super tech might be able to ID it for you. Although you may find out when one of your pews falls to bits mid game

 

[Dan Robinson]

Well, it ended up being two parts lose....

Took the front grop off and this little plate came out too.

Can't see where either came from (limke I said, the pin could be from another pew).

Also found the castellated nut that holds the outer barrel in place was totally undone. 

Can't beat airsoft QC ?

View attachment 113904

 

[CrackCommandoUnit1972]

I have just stripped mine down and cant see anything that resembles the retangular peice you have found. And there is nothing in that diagramme that resembles that bit either

The only pin from under the hand guard I can see it the one that holds the mock gas block in place.

This website seems to stock every bit you need for you rifle.

https://www.kyairsoft.com/parts/we-rifles-gbbr/999-series.html

 

[SheriffHD]

That peice is from the mock gas cylinder that's at the front I do believe. Should feel a slight spring tension when you slide it in.

I've had mine 6 months now, on mine I've developed an issue with it shooting fully auto on semi but the plastic tip on the charging handle has stood up fine.

 

[Dan Robinson]

The only pin from under the hand guard I can see it the one that holds the mock gas block in place

I couldn't see any missing pins, and closer inspection shows that this pin is probably older than this pew.  Time to take the pistols apart again methinks

That peice is from the mock gas cylinder that's at the front I do believe. Should feel a slight spring tension when you slide it in

Which bit dude?   I can feel the spring in the gas tube.

 

[mightyjebus]

the pin looks like 3 possible things, the pin from the G36 mag release, the rear lower receiver on a glock or the lower receiver gearbox pin from an M4

 

[Dan Robinson]

lower receiver gearbox pin from an M4

I'm pretty sure it isn't that (i havent takebone apart for a couple of weeks, but good call on the other two.  Should be testing out those glasses Monday ?

 

[MirrorMan]

Hopefully it doesn't turn into this club. 

I'm joining like it or not ?

 

[gavinkempsell]

As above it looks like #52 in this diagram, I'll assume airsoft isn't your priority just now, quessing you're spending Hong Kong Dollars just now but here's the diagram...

https://www.kyairsoft.com/999-46-g39-flash-hider-gbbr.html