350-400 fps Build

ImTriggerHappy said:
290 to 310 on 0.25 is 320 to 340ish on 0.2. So if you chrono about 300 on 0.25s as you claimed it is already there.

As for the marshals saying get it sorted they are talking bollocks. My furthest shooting rifle is 322fps on 0.2s so 287 on 0.25s.

The parts needed if you decide to upgrade are pretty much everything as it is an aps so any upgrade parts like a decent motor have a fair chance of damaging the part they mesh with. Aps parts are pretty poor and can be brittle.

If you want better trigger response then fit a titan advanced and leave the rest stock until it breaks. High rof is basically pointless and no matter who builds it the lifespan of the parts will be shortened.
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well payday is next week so when you say everything what do you mean? obs everything but specifically?

Ive built pcs in the past so my guess would be all the parts need to be compatible, how do i know this?

After you guys response i want to focus on trigger response and reducing the sound output by making this function a lot better/smoother

If you can give me a list of thing i should get 

 
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Northeast Airsoft POD said:
well payday is next week so when you say everything what do you mean? obs everything but specifically?

Ive built pcs in the past so my guess would be all the parts need to be compatible, how do i know this?

After you guys response i want to focus on trigger response and reducing the sound output by making this function a lot better/smoother
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Just shim it and fit a titan.

If you really want to replace internals

Asg ultimate cnc 30k motor

SHS 18.1 gears  or Lonex if you don't mind paying extra.

ICS orange reinforced piston

Unless you are getting bad compression leave the rest.

 
i wouldn't worry too much about fps alone, it's only 1 part of the equation for getting range.

310 on .25's as lozart and trigger have pointed out is bang on where you want to be sitting at 1.11j or equivalent to 346fps on a .2g (which for a 350fps limit is close enough for government work)

i'd start by upping the ammo weight, try some geoff's .3's in there and see if the stock hop can lift them, don't mistake slower bb velocity for less range, it's very much the opposite.

whilst improving the compression wouldn't be amiss, i wouldn't rush into cracking the box open to do it, although if you do decide to fit a titan then you might as well do that while you're in there.

XanderShadow said:
General rule of thumb is that the heavier the ammo; the more accurate it'll often be if hopped right as it travels better, but you're going to lose power and range due to the added weight.
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nope, for the same energy a heavier bb flies further if given enough spin. it also carries its energy better meaning at x distance it'll have more energy than a lighter bb of the same starting energy.

 
ImTriggerHappy said:
Just shim it and fit a titan.

If you really want to replace internals

Asg ultimate cnc 30k motor

SHS 18.1 gears  or Lonex if you don't mind paying extra.

ICS orange reinforced piston

Unless you are getting bad compression leave the rest.
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How do you shim or i this just a youtube task? 

 
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Ive seen alot of you mention a gate titan? what do you mean by this, i found one but it is really expensive. Thought i found it here:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/GATE8-Gate-Titan-Advanced-Wired/dp/B07KPLSPXW/ref=sr_1_15?hvadid=80814136423957&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=gate+titan&qid=1560779892&s=gateway&sr=8-15

Is there any cheaper alternatives?

if not can you link me to what im should be looking at

8 minutes ago, Lozart said:



To be fair, it's easier to understand if you watch a YT vid.

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right, how do you take this part out of the lower receiver as i got stuck i thought is was the trigger causing the issue but not to sure ?

 
Northeast Airsoft POD said:
Ive seen alot of you mention a gate titan? what do you mean by this, i found one but it is really expensive. Thought i found it here:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/GATE8-Gate-Titan-Advanced-Wired/dp/B07KPLSPXW/ref=sr_1_15?hvadid=80814136423957&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=gate+titan&qid=1560779892&s=gateway&sr=8-15

Is there any cheaper alternatives?

if not can you link me to what im should be looking at

right, how do you take this part out of the lower receiver as i got stuck i thought is was the trigger causing the issue but not to sure ?
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If you've taken out the two main body pins, chances are you haven't taken out the pin that goes across the receiver just above the trigger.

This is a pretty good breakdown video:



 
Lozart said:
https://www.ak2m4.co.uk/internal-parts/bushings-shims/rocket-shims-v2
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 so  @Lozart the motors im am looking at and have been recommended are the 

SHS (RA) HIGH TORQUE MOTOR 16TPA (LONG)

asg ultimate basic motor

any others i should be contemplating ?

I have the Shims and M110 coming sometime this week

Still unsure on the Gate titan and the gear ratio. Do i need to buy new gears if so what do you guys recommend.

Hop up upgrade as well? any suggestion of parts

and i think im almost there

ImTriggerHappy said:
A proper tech
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at least i am trying dude, i have to learn somehow

 
Northeast Airsoft POD said:
 so  @Lozart the motors im am looking at and have been recommended are the 

SHS (RA) HIGH TORQUE MOTOR 16TPA (LONG)

asg ultimate basic motor

any others i should be contemplating ?

I have the Shims and M110 coming sometime this week

Still unsure on the Gate titan and the gear ratio. Do i need to buy new gears if so what do you guys recommend.

Hop up upgrade as well? any suggestion of parts

and i think im almost there
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Don't change any more than you need to. 

Gate Titan https://www.bullseyecountrysport.co.uk/gate-titan-v2-advanced-set-airsoft-trigger-mosfet-lipo-management-fire-selector-23039-p.asp (that's the advanced set that lets you program using your phone over USB which is a lot easier to do than relying on a laptop when you get to site)

Don't bother with the M110 spring (but I guess you've already bought it so...)

Think about the things that your gun doesn't do that you want it to. If you have decent range and accuracy, leave the hop and inner barrel alone. Stick with the standard gears for now until you break them, high rate of fire isn't everything and changing to a faster gear ratio (like 13:1 for example) will potentially lead to other issues like pre-engagement or feeding issues. If you have a good airseal then leave the cylinder/piston/nozzle assembly alone too.

 
Lozart said:
Don't change any more than you need to. 

Gate Titan https://www.bullseyecountrysport.co.uk/gate-titan-v2-advanced-set-airsoft-trigger-mosfet-lipo-management-fire-selector-23039-p.asp (that's the advanced set that lets you program using your phone over USB which is a lot easier to do than relying on a laptop when you get to site)

Don't bother with the M110 spring (but I guess you've already bought it so...)

Think about the things that your gun doesn't do that you want it to. If you have decent range and accuracy, leave the hop and inner barrel alone. Stick with the standard gears for now until you break them, high rate of fire isn't everything and changing to a faster gear ratio (like 13:1 for example) will potentially lead to other issues like pre-engagement or feeding issues. If you have a good airseal then leave the cylinder/piston/nozzle assembly alone too.
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 so what am i paying for when i spend that much just the abilty of using changing wireless

 
I agree with some of you guys recarding the on sites gun techs, you guys know anybody that will do this do this for me withing in 50miles of shildon in northeast that i can send with parts to fix and build i dont want to spend 3O on the on site tech but i will see what comes back

so i will keep the gears i have,shim my gears which looks pretty simple, purchase the gate titan,

Any particular motor i should get to go with the titan?

the only 2 ive seen mentioned are

Asg ultimate cnc 30k motor

SHS (RA) HIGH TORQUE MOTOR 16TPA (LONG)

 
Northeast Airsoft POD said:
I agree with some of you guys recarding the on sites gun techs, you guys know anybody that will do this do this for me withing in 50miles of shildon in northeast that i can send with parts to fix and build i dont want to spend 3O on the on site tech but i will see what comes back

so i will keep the gears i have,shim my gears which looks pretty simple, purchase the gate titan,

Any particular motor i should get to go with the titan?

the only 2 ive seen mentioned are

Asg ultimate cnc 30k motor

SHS (RA) HIGH TORQUE MOTOR 16TPA (LONG)
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As long as the motor is not running hot just use the stock one with the titan

 
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