Zedward

@Rogerborg Everything in your answer is very useful, thank you. That chart is perfect, I’ll be keeping that. I’ll definitely ask what gear I need, I don’t have much beyond eye pro just now. One of the problems I think I’ll face is that my whole life it’s been drummed into me to never, ever point a gun at someone. Now I have to point and shoot at someone. ? My other concern is I’m in my late 40s, fat, unfit, have bad knees and smoke too much. Oh well, in for a penny. Thanks again for your and everyone else’s advice. I have my answer, I’m happy to close the thread. Cheers Zedward

@Rogerborg Thanks, pal, no worries. I expect there’s a lot of neds trying to get round the rules, it doesn’t bother me. That’s all good info, I knew about muzzle energy, but hadn’t really thought about it. I’ll see if my old chrono still works and figure out how to convert feet pounds to joules. ? I assume a skirmish site sill test before allowing me to play? I’ve got a rifle bag and hard pistol case left over from air guns, so all good for transporting. Thanks for you reply, top info. cheers

@Tommikka Yes, I think that’s the best idea. The site near me is due to open in spring, so I can wait, no problem. Thanks for your advice, much appreciated. @Hudson Good point, well made! I do plan to do that, but I saw a nice GBB SCAR in the classifieds near me, but was an RIF. Plus, there’s fewer two tones for sale. ?

EDcase Thanks man, I’m not trying to get around the laws, just making sure what they are. I sold my air guns before the Scottish laws changed, I only used them for targets in the end anyway. I have private land to use the airsoft on, no public nearby, so no worries there. My long term aim is get a Ukara number, just so I can buy in the second hand market. Night, mate, appreciate your and everyone’s advice. ?

hitmanNo2 It’s as I thought from reading the VCRA. I won’t buy second hand here or anywhere else unless I have a UKARA defence. I used to have air guns, but the laws in Scotland are different from the rest of the UK and I can’t be bothered with the hassle of an air gun license for target shooting at short range. I’ll stick to buying two tones for now. There’s a skirmish site opening near me next year, I’ll see if that have an activity suited to me, if not so be it. I don’t need RIF, I just wanted to access 2nd hand prices. I am Scottish, we like a bargain. ?

@everyone To be clear, I’m not trying to buy an RIF without a UKARA, I’m trying to clarify if I can legally buy an RIF from the classifieds on here (I can’t and won’t). If I wanted to buy an RIF illegally I wouldn’t be ok here asking, I’d be on Facebook or Gumtree. I appreciate your help and apologies for any confusion. Thanks Zedward

Hi Tommikka, I haven’t shot myself in the foot at all, literally or figuratively. I’m asking the question to stay within the law. I am happy using two tones, it makes no difference to me, it’s just that the second hand market is, obviously, cheaper than new. I don’t want to get myself or a seller into trouble. I appreciate your answer, though, I’m sure there’s a lot of questions on here on ‘how to avoid UKARA’. And yeah, I am sadly well over 18! ☹️ Cheers, Zedward

Hi EDcase, Thanks, appreciate your reply. I read the relevant parts of VCRA and was none the wiser! From what I could tell, it’s as you say that’s it’s the sellers responsibility, but that I would need a defence if asked by the Police etc. You guys know more than I do, though. I will speak to the site opening near me to see if an alternative to skirmishing is available (I’m not very mobile) with a view to getting a UKARA number, but I’d like to buy a few pieces on the classified section meantime. I’ll watch for other answers, as well. Cheers Kieran

Hello everyone, I’m quite new to airsoft after stumbling onto a You Tube video. I have a background in air guns and shotguns, but the laws in Scotland are a nightmare, so I picked airsoft for my fun target shooting and plinking. I have a few two tone guns and love them, but would like to take advantage of the 2nd hand market, especially here. ? I don’t have a UKARA number (no site close to me and don’t want to skirmish anyway, although a site is opening close by next year) so my question is simply can I buy a second hand airsoft RIF without a legal defence? Thanks is advance, Zedward.