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Load-Out / Loadout Picture topic

I dunno... I mean yeah Russell, your loadouts are well impressive and, knowing what went into producing the Owen, it is also fucking impressive, but to me it still looks horrible. The mag sticking up like that is just the daftest looking system i've ever seen. I realise that it's better than under the barrel for prone firing, but the horizontal Sten mag position takes care of that.

 
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The Owen was used in jungle fighting. The Austen (Australian version of the sten) was found to snag on vegetation a lot more.

The shape does seem wrong until you hold the Owen, then it becomes clear that it is actually genius. All the weight is at the rear of the gun so unlike the Sten or Thompson, once you have the stock to your shoulder you can do other stuff with your left hand (Vietnam photo's of Australians indicate that radio operators tended to use the Owen). A side mounted magazine would put the gun off balance and require you to hold it with 2 hands. The magazine really doesn't affect your field of view much, as when you aim down the right hand side of the gun it is central to both eyes.

If you hold up 2 fingers together at arms length directly in front of you, you can see everything behind them (as long as its a meter or more away), this is about the same width and position as the mag on an Owen.

 
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That is a lovely and very well done load out Russell, applause should be given, however I wasn't aware that the Lone Ranger was an Australian soldier.......

 
Spatch said:
That is a lovely and very well done load out Russell, applause should be given, however I wasn't aware that the Lone Ranger was an Australian soldier.......
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:D

That's exactly what I thought.

 
If the sideways mag of the Sten was such an issue they should have invented a reliable drum mag to replace the box mag poking out so far.

 
Ian_Gere said:
If the sideways mag of the Sten was such an issue they should have invented a reliable drum mag to replace the box mag poking out so far.
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The Sten mag was not an issue in Europe but the Sten had a number of shortcomings in jungle conditions, the magazine was just one of these. The Owen was superior in reliability to any sub machinegun of it's era and as I said, the magazine position was not a problem. If the magazine position had been an issue, they would not have replaced the Owen with the F1:

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<--now that really is an ugly gun

 
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^^It's a Stirling that's been downundered... stoopid stoopid fucking stoopid!

 
Ian_Gere said:
^^It's a Stirling that's been downundered... stoopid stoopid f*cking stoopid!
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Without the folding stock, the F1 is able to have a longer main tube. This means that you can separate the cocking lever from the bolt so that dirt doesn't get to the bolt and jam the gun as easily. For some reason the Aussies liked the idea that if you drop your gun in a muddy puddle, you can pick it up and it will shoot. The vertical mag again balances the gun better and doesn't catch as easily on heavy vegetation. Of course if you want a good looking gun rather than one which will work then the Stirling is much better :)

 
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The new Warrior PC with modular front for velcro panels isn't too far off. Be very handy in the situation where you only want one rig but have multiple types of mags that require very different sizes of pouch.

 
I have seen it......VERY nice.

But I have my dcs already and can't justify changing it. This will work. I use the sabre drop leg aswell so all mags carried at once.

 
Aw come on, you change your mind and sell your loadout every 2 minutes anyway, why not upgrade? xP

 
Yeah I know.......

I may end up with one...just depends on the cost.

 
Because they've already shown an example that was close to a production piece? WAS is all made in china, they don't take very long to get the production going on things compared to the more gucci western gear manufacturers.

 
Airsoft_Mr B said:
How do you know this?

Anyone have any info on release date or price?
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They're expected to be out in the summer this year, they said on Facebook. As for pricing, I'd imagine 150ish depending on which setup you buy. That's only speculation thiugh, they having said anything about pricing yet
 
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