Has Km Cheated the Chrono at Anzio?

[Rogerborg]

Last time I played anzio, back end of last year, chrono was there for players to go through just after site opened and they trust players to go through it, as they do regularly grab people going through to the safe zone post game and there was a roaming chrono too, for random testing. It was covered in the brief, regards to passing first thing in the morning then later failing in that you would be allowed to change or take the rif from play.

Then I'm back to approving again.

 

[Oneshotscott]

I may go on his Facebook page later and ask if Skirmshop are any good...

Or post links to skirmshop websites version of the kmcs, stating how much better it is.. Lol

 

[Kls77]

Last time I played anzio, back end of last year, chrono was there for players to go through just after site opened and they trust players to go through it, as they do regularly grab people going through to the safe zone post game and there was a roaming chrono too, for random testing. It was covered in the brief, regards to passing first thing in the morning then later failing in that you would be allowed to change or take the rif from play.

Mate played few weeks ago there 

He chrono his stock Maruti gbb mp7 on morning . All passed . Then was grabbed hr into day random chrono. Difernent chrono and tester and failed . Told to get off site ???!!!! Aswell as 15 others players on day . 

No refunds no arguing or anything told to pack and leave . So his dad had to leave aswell . Three he round trip . Hrs game for £60 

I won't go back . As I won't keep my mouth shut if happened to me ?. And that would be a different kind of Airsoft fights YouTube video hahaha

 

[Tackle]

Mate played few weeks ago there 

He chrono his stock Maruti gbb mp7 on morning . All passed . Then was grabbed hr into day random chrono. Difernent chrono and tester and failed . Told to get off site ???!!!! Aswell as 15 others players on day . 

No refunds no arguing or anything told to pack and leave . So his dad had to leave aswell . Three he round trip . Hrs game for £60 

I won't go back . As I won't keep my mouth shut if happened to me ?. And that would be a different kind of Airsoft fights YouTube video hahaha

What dicks, word does indeed need to get around, they might get a wake up call if takings start to drop drastically, no more than they deserve.?

 

[Oneshotscott]

if you google 'the heresy group Anzio shit show', grab some pop corn, sit back and get educated on how first and only truly are doing the uk airsoft game scene no good at all.

 

[leadly]

I've only been to Anzio twice but won't be going back for a while.

Jamie who runs the place, acts like a power mad war lord. 

To paraphrase him "It's upto you to make sure your gun is site legal before you turn up, chrono at the start of the day isn't mandatory but we'll do random checks throughout the day and if caught running hot, your out of here"

So in theory I could rock up with my MTW, turn the reg right up, cause some damage to some poor soul and unless I get grassed up or random checked, not get caught.

The first time I went, I got asked for 1 random chrono but wasn't asked what weight I was using, just fired into it and the lad just wondered off. My 2nd visit I didn't chrono at all. Set my reg the night before and took my chrono with me. Tested it in the game area before the brief.

The mission briefing is the worst. He briefs the first and second game objective together after the quite lengthy safety brief and then picks on a random person to see if they were paying attention. You can see him get a chub on if someone gets it wrong!!

Its quite a big site with lots of similar looking buildings so knowing that I've got to get a bomb from "D3 to the pub" on my first time there isn't really going to sink in. Plus then you've got to remember the mission after as well. I did ask a marshall what was happening now and they clearly didn't know, just said erm well everyone's going that way so I'd suggest following them!!

Ah rant over.

Anyway, I'm a KM fan boy so feel free to disregard everything I've just said.

As a group we've agreed to go back one more time and just play one long day of room clearing. I'll ditch my KMCS suit and equip my Dye mask! Ensuring the dirty looks stay consistent from my previous visits ??

 

[Stratton Oakmont]

I've only been to Anzio twice but won't be going back for a while.

Jamie who runs the place, acts like a power mad war lord. 

To paraphrase him "It's upto you to make sure your gun is site legal before you turn up, chrono at the start of the day isn't mandatory but we'll do random checks throughout the day and if caught running hot, your out of here"

So in theory I could rock up with my MTW, turn the reg right up, cause some damage to some poor soul and unless I get grassed up or random checked, not get caught.

The first time I went, I got asked for 1 random chrono but wasn't asked what weight I was using, just fired into it and the lad just wondered off. My 2nd visit I didn't chrono at all. Set my reg the night before and took my chrono with me. Tested it in the game area before the brief.

The mission briefing is the worst. He briefs the first and second game objective together after the quite lengthy safety brief and then picks on a random person to see if they were paying attention. You can see him get a chub on if someone gets it wrong!!

Its quite a big site with lots of similar looking buildings so knowing that I've got to get a bomb from "D3 to the pub" on my first time there isn't really going to sink in. Plus then you've got to remember the mission after as well. I did ask a marshall what was happening now and they clearly didn't know, just said erm well everyone's going that way so I'd suggest following them!!

Ah rant over.

Anyway, I'm a KM fan boy so feel free to disregard everything I've just said.

As a group we've agreed to go back one more time and just play one long day of room clearing. I'll ditch my KMCS suit and equip my Dye mask! Ensuring the dirty looks stay consistent from my previous visits ??

You have saved me a lot of typing as my experience was identical to this 

 

[EvilMonkee]

I was wanting to go here, wont bother now

 

[Samurai]

So in theory I could rock up with my MTW, turn the reg right up, cause some damage to some poor soul

But mandatory chrono wouldn't stop you doing this either.

 

[Cannonfodder]

I guess that explains this post on faceache. I can't find the video thoughView attachment 76400

 

[leadly]

But mandatory chrono wouldn't stop you doing this either.

Very true. I know I've not played at a lot of sites but I have only ever had my reg cable tied once. 

 

[Rogerborg]

But mandatory chrono wouldn't stop you doing this either.

QFT. Saying something is not the same as enforcing it.

Even if you did somehow manage to ensure that every single player chronos every single one of their guns in the morning (and you won't), there are any number of ways to cheat it, deliberately or even accidentally.

Ultimately all that matters is what you peak at in-game.  And the only person responsible for that is you.

Sending people home for it, well, their gaff, their rules.  I wouldn't be happy about it, but I'm sure they've heard every excuse under the sun: "It was fine this morning", "It's never done that before", "My usual site is OK with it".  But none of that alters the reality that a hot gun is a hot gun, and if you excuse 0.01J, then why not 0.1, or 0.5?

Now, if there's a problem with their site chronos, that's another issue.  But who here has a calibrated chrono, and against what do you calibrate it?

 

[leadly]

I guess that explains this post on faceache. I can't find the video thoughView attachment 76400

?? The first two points will surely contradict each other. Joule creep IS the reason why you shouldn't chrono on 0.2's.

They never offered or told me to fill my mags with 0.2's when I chrono'd the first time or when I was spot chrono'd on that same day.

 

[Rogerborg]

?? The first two points will surely contradict each other. Joule creep IS the reason why you shouldn't chrono on 0.2's.

Yes, that's moronic.  No outdoor site should be chronoing on 0.2g, and I wish they'd stop talking and thinking in terms of fps.

The biggest cause for complaint I can see above is a marshal not asking what weight of BB was being used.  But then I've ranted elsewhere about quis custodiet ipsos custodes.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Very true. I know I've not played at a lot of sites but I have only ever had my reg cable tied once. 

lemme guess, you were showing the marshall at chrono that it was a thing you could do?

Now, if there's a problem with their site chronos, that's another issue.  But who here has a calibrated chrono, and against what do you calibrate it?

whilst it's true almost everyone site or individual doesn't bother calibrating their chrono's, a personal chrono stored in a dry house that sees a few dozen rounds a month tops is a different story to one kept in a damp shed and getting plastered with hundreds sometimes thousands of rounds every week (assuming most folks are firing 3-6 shots per pew) and all the tubestriking and schrapnel that entails.

? The first two points will surely contradict each other. Joule creep IS the reason why you shouldn't chrono on 0.2's.

not if their understanding of the term "joule creep" is "320fps on 0.2g is not the same as 320fps on 0.3g" rather than the actual phenomenon when it comes to changing weights in gas fed systems.

 

[Rogerborg]

whilst it's true almost everyone site or individual doesn't bother calibrating their chrono's, a personal chrono stored in a dry house that sees a few dozen rounds a month tops is a different story to one kept in a damp shed and getting plastered with hundreds sometimes thousands of rounds every week (assuming most folks are firing 3-6 shots per pew) and all the tubestriking and schrapnel that entails

Fair point, but without one trustworthy reading to compare against, there's no particular reason to believe that any particular chrono is over, under, or reflecting reality, whether it's a freshly purchased Skan or a 5 year old site Whang Dong.

Heck, last time I was on site, we ended up using my own Whang Dong in addition to the site's Xcortech without even comparing them against each other.  The site owner wasn't remotely fussed when I suggested doing that, he just wanted to get the folk who'd showed up to chrono done as fast as possible.  At the end of the day, it's up to site owners to care about and enforce this, or not, and all we can do is to go elsewhere if we don't like the way they're running things.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Fair point, but without one trustworthy reading to compare against, there's no particular reason to believe that any particular chrono is over, under, or reflecting reality, whether it's a freshly purchased Skan or a 5 year old site Whang Dong.

true, but if 2 chrono's are giving different readings (eg you chrono your gun at home then the site chrono is wildly different) the question is which of the 2 do you trust least?

ideally you'd want a third, so at least you can throw out whichever one is the oddball.

 

[Cromulon1994]

First and only have always worded it as it's a limit of 328 (which is what you should aim for) with up to 350 for variance.  

 

[Rogerborg]

true, but if 2 chrono's are giving different readings (eg you chrono your gun at home then the site chrono is wildly different) the question is which of the 2 do you trust least?

It doesn't really matter which one I trust. The site is going to go by theirs.  This is why I'm always first at the chrono in the morning in case I have to do some emergency fettling.

First and only have always worded it as it's a limit of 328 (which is what you should aim for) with up to 350 for variance.  

Urgh, fps again.  

I've never understood this "aim for" / "hard limit" stuff.  I'll aim for the hard limit, and I expect everybody else will too.

 

[Shamal]

Don't know what the topic is about but that pic gets my vote.

His holiness the 14th dali lama Gyalwa Ringo Rinpoche.

got him on my wall ?

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