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What's the Most Efficient Stock GBB Pistol You've Used!
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Each to their own I guess. In my mind it's making a pistol, that's not supposed to be cumbersome, cumbersome. Being tethered by the hose and with that fat mag it alters the balance and freedom of movement somewhat. Plus it looks like shite ?
I suppose it depends on your play style and the situation but personally it's not for me
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I feel the urge to buy a Primary/Tapp glock adapter now
I'm just messing with you mate
You make a point, but between having a hose and fighting temperamental mags, I'd go hose all day
Not saying that every GBB mag is shit, but HPA has a clear advantage over gas/co2:
it's constant pressure output, no matter any external factor
With that being said, I'm still a fan of function over form and I still think that HPA tapped pistols are among the best things you can have in tight CQB fields
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Only difference is that the proton packs are cool! ?
Ooh, that's an idea! Make an airsoft proton pack! ?
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I feel the urge to buy a Primary/Tapp glock adapter now
i know you'd do it to, just to ironically be "that guy"
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I see your point re hpa vs gbb but I'd opt for an electric smg over both, for a primary anywayYou make a point, but between having a hose and fighting temperamental mags, I'd go hose all day
Not saying that every GBB mag is shit, but HPA has a clear advantage over gas/co2:
it's constant pressure output, no matter any external factor
With that being said, I'm still a fan of function over form and I still think that HPA tapped pistols are among the best things you can have in tight CQB fields
Ahh, all this talk is making me itch for some action!
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It ultimately down to why people choose to play the game, for some it's realism... which you can justify in any manner of ways. And for some it's simply a sport where, as Skara says, they want what they consider to be the most effective means of running their platform of choice. Much the same as folks running around in kilos of gear versus someone with 7 mags in a paintball style belt, they have the same function, 'cool points' very much being subjective.
I tend to try things out before passing judgement, so I picked up one of the Primary adapters for my Hicapa. The fact you can tune the trigger without having to accomodate for inconsistency is ace, I haven't had a chance to skirmish it (and likely won't, for other reasons) it just felt very 'not me' and that's ultimately that was the thing I couldn't get past. I imagine the hose could get in the way if you're doing acrobatics around a CQB site but for all the regular movements you'd make while playing it's not very restrictive. Having a line into an AR was a whole different story, transitions felt much less comfortable... but that's another topic for another time.
As a note which is more in line with the topic, in terms of HPA efficiency running taps in a GBB is significantly less efficient than running an engine. Superfluous information I have no doubt, but there it is ?
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I tend to try things out before passing judgement, so I picked up one of the Primary adapters for my Hicapa. The fact you can tune the trigger without having to accomodate for inconsistency is ace, I haven't had a chance to skirmish it (and likely won't, for other reasons) it just felt very 'not me' and that's ultimately that was the thing I couldn't get past. I imagine the hose could get in the way if you're doing acrobatics around a CQB site but for all the regular movements you'd make while playing it's not very restrictive. Having a line into an AR was a whole different story, transitions felt much less comfortable... but that's another topic for another time.
As a note which is more in line with the topic, in terms of HPA efficiency running taps in a GBB is significantly less efficient than running an engine. Superfluous information I have no doubt, but there it is ?
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I must confess I do fancy getting an AA-P01 with a gas drum mag just to try it out for a laugh.... obviously useless for woodland unless you're kicking-what's-his-face coz well if he uses one then they must be cool! However, shove in a long inner barrel and then find a suppressor the size of a donkey's third leg and you may have an awesome little pea shooter.. Yes you can get a 3d printed carbine kit, blah, blah, blah, but then you may as well just using a SMG like a EVO or something similar....
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I like my words how I like my M4 mags hanging out of a pistol, big and too hard for some folks to wrap their head around.*
*I said this because I thought it was 'funny'... because as my initial post would suggest, I don't actually like M4 mags hanging out of pistols.
Though I do think the MP5 adapter in the AAP doesn't look half bad, possibly helped by the fact it isn't a 'real gun'... and the fact it isn't plugged in. mUh ImmErsIOn.
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We seem to be going a tad off topic (nothing new there), so with that spirit in mind, I did see this gun in action and passed judgement on it..
It was bloody awesome!. As soon as that trigger was pulled about 2000 bb's just spewed out in a torrent of plastic barrage... I believe the chap that owned it was using propane to fill it up as I remember the smell of the gas reminded me of my BBQ!
I believe it was stock as I asked him if he'd done any changes to it and he said nothing but an adapter was needed for the propane... one thing I did notice though, it kept stopping intermittently... no ides why but he knew how to resolve the 'jams' pretty quick.
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It was bloody awesome!. As soon as that trigger was pulled about 2000 bb's just spewed out in a torrent of plastic barrage... I believe the chap that owned it was using propane to fill it up as I remember the smell of the gas reminded me of my BBQ!
I believe it was stock as I asked him if he'd done any changes to it and he said nothing but an adapter was needed for the propane... one thing I did notice though, it kept stopping intermittently... no ides why but he knew how to resolve the 'jams' pretty quick.
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yep, you just plug the line into the same place the gas can goes.
afaik the issue with those things isn't so much gas as it is bb's, the magazine is the spindle that the barrels rotate around so you gotta spin the gun round to pour ammo into it.
our local has one they're trying to mount onto their site landy, but they've been having some reliability issues (haven't asked them specifically whats up with it)
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In my vast testing, a we g18c with a co2 can last 5 full mags, not in the cold though.
Similarly, an emg sai blu with g18c internals and a WE g35 slide netted 133 shots (close to 5 mags):
Idk why but the we g18c system is pretty efficient, even though there are more parts and is heavier than the g17 system. Weird stuff.
Most co2 pistols can get 100+ shots on a single cartridge (kjw 1911, kjw cz pistols, even kwc pistols)
TM HK45 can get 100+ shots in a max gas charge.
WE CT25 is also surprisingly very efficient (50+ shots iirc)
Similarly, an emg sai blu with g18c internals and a WE g35 slide netted 133 shots (close to 5 mags):
Idk why but the we g18c system is pretty efficient, even though there are more parts and is heavier than the g17 system. Weird stuff.
Most co2 pistols can get 100+ shots on a single cartridge (kjw 1911, kjw cz pistols, even kwc pistols)
TM HK45 can get 100+ shots in a max gas charge.
WE CT25 is also surprisingly very efficient (50+ shots iirc)
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That probably explains those intermittent issues that chap had when walking around with it at my last but one game. Still it was fun to use and even more fun when the other side just took cover under the barrage.
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see i can maybe squeeze 2 mags out of mine on a good day but really you've only got 1 reliably.
although granted that's 2 mags of hilarious range lifting .32's on the stock hop.....
ahh the lottery of WE guns.....
intermittent issues- aka running out of ammo
afaik it's about 2500rounds it holds which wont last too long at that rate of fire.
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