Overkill?

[Adolf Hamster]

not sure if i want to watch the video to make my own judgement, or not watch it to deny him the views.

unfortunately regardless of how decent or not mr creative nickname generator is in the flesh, the personality he's created to play the youtube clickbait game really makes him out to be the embodiment of what airsoft shouldnt be.

sadly "omg you wont beleive the painful cheater getting 500fps sniper 360noscope point blank to the balls instant karma" gets more clicks than "played a days airsoft, it was fun, but more fun in person than it looks in the video, trust me it was good"

 

[DaktariT]

"played a days airsoft, it was fun, but more fun in person than it looks in the video, trust me it was good"

 Who really needs YouTube when you can relive the day down the pub with team mates.

 

[Roscoc]

cool little mac.. would get fed up reloading constant tho.

 

[Groot]

Had to click onto the youtube link to confirm it was Mustang... What a total cockwobble that guy is. 

 

[Druid799]

Had a MAC for a while (bought it for ALL the reasons stated!) but as so many are sayIng I just couldn’t use it at my home site as I got on ok with basically all the regular players there and to be honest once the novelty of emptying the whole mag in under 2sec wore off i just felt a right nobber for using it on guys I considered friends , first timers and unknown players ? Nah couldn’t give a flying fornication about hosing the bejesus out of them but not my S’ofting bro’s ! ?????

 

[Tactical Pith Helmet]

That boy is a fool.  If your aim in attending any sort of game is 'upsetting people' by acting like a dick you need to either

1) grow up 

2) hope someone changes your nappy and puts you in a better mood.  

That man is about as welcome at an airsoft site as a leaky bucket of AIDS.

 

[jsmithski]

total cockwomble full auto at those ranges

Wait, there’s no relationship between distance and full auto. I would say full auto works best at close distance, simply because it’s more fun*
 

* Your experience may vary depending on the joule output

 

[DaktariT]

Wait, there’s no relationship between distance and full auto. I would say full auto works best at close distance, simply because it’s more fun*

All of us are aware that we're going to receive a surplus of hits sometimes but not at the level he delivered. By the way being the person on the recieving end of your idea of fun isn't fun.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Wait, there’s no relationship between distance and full auto. I would say full auto works best at close distance, simply because it’s more fun*
 

* Your experience may vary depending on the joule output

not sure i'm reading the point you're trying to make, are you saying that auto is most effective at at short range, or that auto is equally aggravating regardless of distance?

 

[jsmithski]

not sure i'm reading the point you're trying to make, are you saying that auto is most effective at at short range, or that auto is equally aggravating regardless of distance?

Saying that at least from my perspective playing a cqb on full auto (with appropriate low FPS) is more fun and engaging to everybody. I usually play a DMR or sniper at long distances as I don’t like spraying from far away in hoping to get a hit.  Not everybody agrees I know, that’s why there are so few cqb games that allow FA. The whole idea of a SMG is to run full auto at close distance, isn’t it?

 

[TheFull9]

Yeah a real SMG with low power rounds in a situation where you really need to kill the guy fast because he's bloody close.  1 bb = dead at any range from any type of RIF.

 

[jsmithski]

Yeah a real SMG with low power rounds in a situation where you really need to kill the guy fast because he's bloody close.  1 bb = dead at any range from any type of RIF.

I believe that depends on the level of immersion you expect from the game. Have you seen speedsoft battles? After one game you look like a smallpox patient. I see no point in using SMGs unless it’s full auto game. Shooting single with a mac11 is just boring.

 

[Druid799]

 Have you seen speedsoft battles? After one game you look like a smallpox patient. 

Think it’s safe to say most ‘run of the mill’ airsofters would probably wish it WAS smallpox .

just saying . 

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Saying that at least from my perspective playing a cqb on full auto (with appropriate low FPS) is more fun and engaging to everybody. I usually play a DMR or sniper at long distances as I don’t like spraying from far away in hoping to get a hit.  Not everybody agrees I know, that’s why there are so few cqb games that allow FA. The whole idea of a SMG is to run full auto at close distance, isn’t it?

Ahh yes, i can see what you mean now.

It's an interesting one, i kind of agree that being hosed with an 0.5j gun is preferable to say 3 or 4 spammed semi shots from a much more powerful gat all things being equal.

As a rule for say milsims for caliber appropriate guns maybe, but for general skirmishing it's easier to just limit to semi.

 

[jsmithski]

I wish more people were owning Gbbrs and we could allow full auto on every game, as you really pick the right moment with a 20-30 rounder on a gbbr. When full auto kicks in on a gbb gun even the guy that gets hit is smiling... at least that’s what I like to picture every time

 

[GeorgePlaysAirsoft]

Kicking Mustang did WHAT!?

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[Druid799]

Ahh yes, i can see what you mean now.

It's an interesting one, i kind of agree that being hosed with an 0.5j gun is preferable to say 3 or 4 spammed semi shots from a much more powerful gat all things being equal.

As a rule for say milsims for caliber appropriate guns maybe, but for general skirmishing it's easier to just limit to semi.

Totally agree with all your points here only problem i can see is the human factor , we ALL know there’s players who’d quite happily abuse this and take the piss with there FPS , basically just like they do with every other thing to do with the sport that could be abused by an unscrupulous player ?

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Totally agree with all your points here only problem i can see is the human factor , we ALL know there’s players who’d quite happily abuse this and take the piss with there FPS , basically just like they do with every other thing to do with the sport that could be abused by an unscrupulous player ?

Yep, thats why the semi rule is still useful.

I mean even with that you get the right setup you can spam faster than a lot of guns can even fire.

I do wonder if rps limits as well as fps limits might be worth implementation, let folks run auto indoors but cap the rate of fire to something sensible.

 

[jsmithski]

I do wonder if rps limits as well as fps limits might be worth implementation, let folks run auto indoors but cap the rate of fire to something sensible.

Exactly. Who needs >30rps? Why do we allow hair triggers on semi?

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Exactly. Who needs >30rps? Why do we allow hair triggers on semi?

Hair triggers are one thing, but those multi-finger ones are what i was thinking of.

Very high rps has some limited utility, particularly fleeting targets and drilling through dense hedges, but not really enough to justify the issues that even the shortest of trigger presses is sending half a dozen rounds downrange.