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Load-Out / Loadout Picture topic

Mack said:
Is that the Semapo M81's mate? looks awesome
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yeah, really impressed by them, side by side with my cryes it's pretty hard to pick out many significant differences in quality. Fabric isn't quite as robust as the real deal but they were about £200 cheaper than the real thing!

Oh, and don't tumble dry them... I'm glad mine were a little bit bigger than I needed to begin with :)

 
Ian_Gere said:
VFG and hold the M4 by the magwell.... booo... hissssssssssssssss!
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meh. it's like dropbars on a bike, you wont go wind tunnel all the time, but it gives you options.

personally I usually find myself switching depending on what's more comfy at that instant. plus its ridiculous how many times the vg have prevented me from getting hit :P (when gun hits doesn't count)

imho :)

 
Undieing_Lust said:
What plate carrier is that you're wearing Piecre09?
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[SIZE=10.5pt]LBT 6094A MC[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Onerios Valley Scorpion W2 PAP [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]HSGI MC single taco x 3 [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Tactical Tailor Double M4 pouch x2 MC[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Tactical Tailor 2x203 pouch MC[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]TMC IFAK MC[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Tactical Tailor Hydro[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Links to the main stuff![/SIZE]

cavninja said:
Looking good Pierce, where were the pics taken? Looks a bit like the sandpit?
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Pics were taken at ACE airsoft field at the Pro Gun Club in Boulder City, Nevada. It's about 20 minutes south of Las Vegas. The background shows the mountains that surround LV and you can see why the US military uses the area between LV and California as training for Afghanistan and Iraq!

Ian_Gere said:
VFG and hold the M4 by the magwell.... booo... hissssssssssssssss!
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I even have the same habit with real steel! I miss my AFG but even then i didn't use it all that much. I like to feel 'tucked in' when in a firing position with arms tight into my body. Couple of team mates are firearms instructors and they aren't happy with my firing stances!

 
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Some cool loudout pics there, however, wearing all that jungle/desert camo whilst creeping past brickwork and whitewashed walls is rather self defeating. It actually makes you stand out even more. If it was me and I was going to go there often, I'd think about getting some urban patterned stuff.

 
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Chock said:
Some cool loudout pics there, however, wearing all that jungle/desert camo whilst creeping past brickwork and whitewashed walls is rather self defeating. It actually makes you stand out even more. If it was me and I was going to go there often, I'd think about getting some urban patterned stuff.
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Game uniform requirements for my team was to wear woodland camouflage. Urban camo patterns are beyond useless either way, there's no reliable way to conceal yourself when your backdrop is bricks and white painted walls.

 
Bottledtorment said:
Prepping my Real(Christmas)Tree Loadout ready for sundays Xmas game expect pictures!
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pretty standard in Swedish army

cant find the pic I want :(

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jcheeseright said:
Game uniform requirements for my team was to wear woodland camouflage. Urban camo patterns are beyond useless either way, there's no reliable way to conceal yourself when your backdrop is bricks and white painted walls.
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Fair one, urban camo uniforms are pretty much Operation Broken Pencil! totally pointless! The best cam is your field craft and personal skills, especially in an urban/CQB environment, cover from view and cover from fire, use of shadows etc.

We did use to employ an urban cam on AVs in Berlin, a block pattern of black/white/grey, but thankfully that never made it on to clothing!!

 
jcheeseright said:
Game uniform requirements for my team was to wear woodland camouflage. Urban camo patterns are beyond useless either way, there's no reliable way to conceal yourself when your backdrop is bricks and white painted walls.
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Fair enough if it was a requirement to wear a certain pattern, and obviously in that case it aids with recognition between friend and foe, which is of course one of the other purposes of specific camp patterns.

Having said that, I'm sure most of us are aware that camouflage is not merely about attempting complete concealment, its other purpose is to break up outlines in order to make rapid recognition and range finding more difficult for your enemy even when they do spot you, which it does through the function of not appearing as a recognisable shape for your enemy to process mentally when his eyes make saccade sweeps. There's little doubt that any sort of foliage pattern isn't going to do a great job of that against urban backdrops, since the tonal ranges are so different, urban camouflage will make that mental recognition process from a saccade sweep slower for an enemy, which is why such patterns are developed, although I'm inclined to think something like Finnish Snow Pattern might arguably do as well in an urban environment.

It's interesting to note that few militaries have actually officially adopted any urban camouflage patterns, whereas they do get used a lot by Military SF and SWAT units quite regularly, since they have found them to be more effective when deployed to urban areas. I suppose this is a case of horses for courses and also a testament to the notion that that Military Intelligence is indeed sometimes a contradiction in terms in the light of that evidence. Those of us who were around in the Seventies will doubtless recall how ridiculous and indeed scandalous it was that British troops had to patrol around the streets of Belfast wearing woodland camouflage patterns, which made them stick out like a sore thumb, whilst carrying FNs and SLRs suitable for engaging targets a long ranges, as opposed to something more suited to engaging a target across the street from them, as was likely to be the case. Meaning neither the troop's clothing nor his weapon was suited to the task at hand. Some things never change of course, more recently during the 1991 Gulf War, the first troops out to the region were being sent out with green woodland pattern battledress whilst riding vehicles still painted in olive drab patterns designed for combat on the plains of Germany during the Cold War. So once again the old saying about the British Army being 'the best trained and the worst equipped' was true.

 
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