Airsoft 2.0 (invite to join will be closed 19/10/18)

[Not-so-fortunate son]

Airsoft 2: electric boogaloo

 

[E21A]

Airsoft 2: electric boogaloo

????

You win the internet today 

 

[Druid799]

Oops ! Looks like the wheels just fell of your trike ! ???

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[Tiercel]

Better sign up fast guys, the "invitation to join" is closing soon! 

And yet still nothing has been posted to give any hint of what the OP actually wants people to do or what theyre trying to sell. Its all vague wordy-bollocks 

Im now more convinced this is a recruitment for a cult and its going to be like the Jonestown cult except everyone will be wearing speedsoft kit and body cameras and "drink the Nuprol". Either that or some wierd pyramid scheme "join me and be my [made up business title here] just need you to sign this NDA and cough up a £1000 investment! Guaranteed returns honest!" 

OP if you want people to give you even a vague hint of believably, stop being all vague and elusive and tell us exactly what you want or what youre proposing that will be so game changing. Because at the moment youre about on par with  Rainpal 

 

[Wo1f]

I’m sure there’s lots of capable people on here, me being one of them. But why would anyone offer up their time when you can’t be straight with anyone?

So until you can just tell people what you want to achieve... I’m out

 

[Adolf Hamster]

i doubt you're going to get anyone seriously on board without some more concrete plans, what you're asking is to accept a job with a big salary with no actual basis for who's paying them, what they'd be paid to do, or what kind of financial security you'd have if you took up the post.

plus this is a garden industry, there's no real unification to it, there's a bunch of not particularly massive asian toy companies making the hardware, the occasional hipster in europe/america turning out top quality kit for top quality prices, and a bunch of farmers running sites who've figured out this airsoft malarkey pays more than milking cows.

and this is coming from the guy who last year was going to revolutionise airsoft with his uni project until he found out the hard way r&d requires a hell of a lot more money and multi-functional expertise than one student can obtain.

we also need to remember the reality of this industry is it's literally built on ripping off people's ideas, so as much as your reluctance to provide facts that could be stolen is admirable you're eventually going to have to unveil this idea of yours to the world and the moment that happens if it has any substance then you're going to be ripped off by every country in aisa who understands the reality of patent law.

 

[Tiercel]

Also having looked at OPs website, it claims they have access to a QE Aircraft carrier as a "training aid". Now apart from calling utter BS on that, and all the other ridiculous "training and recruitment"  they apparently offer, its also full of random youtube clips that mean nothing and have nothing to do with OPs site/business or airsoft.

But at least it looks flashy.

Where do I sign up for my Aircraft Carrier training?

 

[Th0rn0]

You are 99% correct, I’m not asking you or most of the forum to trust me, just a capable person to make themselves know. 

Then of course they would receive the information. 

Um, no I can’t do it alone, obviously. That’s a poor way to run a company. 

I fully expected the reaction it received, but I knew if I found the right person it would be worth it. 

I feel honoured that you’d choose this thread to cause you to make the leap. 

It’s absolutely fine, I’m a very persistent person and we (yes, we) are doing just fine. The important thing in life is to try, I certainly don’t want to have regrets simply because I or others thought something would be difficult.

It really makes my day that you’d be that interested to do so much research just on me. Wow! I feel like I owe you a prize or something. 

Have you worked in open source intelligence?

If not, check out Michael Bazzell’s books on the subject, you’ll love it!

If I was asking for money, sure, that’s a scam but for one person and a professional at that, hmm he/she would realise pretty quickly and I’d be paying them sooooo. 

If you reach out via whatever platform you choose I’ll be more than happy to chat. 

Don't flatter yourself. Literally 2 minutes of google and there it all is. The fact that I felt compelled to (for lack of a better word) expose you should NOT make you feel good about yourself. The sarcasm and deflection is also noted. 

You are far from any professional I would ever like to work with. Infact calling you professional is wrong. You are far from Professional.

But hey - I used to make up websites for businesses with the hope of watching them bring me in lots of money all from the comfort of my bedroom... When I was 13. You are full of marketing BS and buzzwords.

Good luck on your half assed and ill-thought out ideas. 

 

[Seth_Erebor]

Oof

Don't flatter yourself. He's clearly taken the time to expose you for the shill you are.

I’ve been well and truly rumbled ?

Better sign up fast guys, the "invitation to join" is closing soon! 

And yet still nothing has been posted to give any hint of what the OP actually wants people to do or what theyre trying to sell. Its all vague wordy-bollocks 

Im now more convinced this is a recruitment for a cult and its going to be like the Jonestown cult except everyone will be wearing speedsoft kit and body cameras and "drink the Nuprol". Either that or some wierd pyramid scheme "join me and be my [made up business title here] just need you to sign this NDA and cough up a £1000 investment! Guaranteed returns honest!" 

OP if you want people to give you even a vague hint of believably, stop being all vague and elusive and tell us exactly what you want or what youre proposing that will be so game changing. Because at the moment youre about on par with  Rainpal 

Rainpal?? 

Sorry man, that’s not budging and I didn’t change it from “thread closing” to “invitation closing”. 

You don’t want to invest in this, trust me. 

I’m sure there’s lots of capable people on here, me being one of them. But why would anyone offer up their time when you can’t be straight with anyone?

So until you can just tell people what you want to achieve... I’m out

Dude! That’s all you had to say, are you based in London? 

I’m available next Wednesday afternoon, can you do central London?

i doubt you're going to get anyone seriously on board without some more concrete plans, what you're asking is to accept a job with a big salary with no actual basis for who's paying them, what they'd be paid to do, or what kind of financial security you'd have if you took up the post.

plus this is a garden industry, there's no real unification to it, there's a bunch of not particularly massive asian toy companies making the hardware, the occasional hipster in europe/america turning out top quality kit for top quality prices, and a bunch of farmers running sites who've figured out this airsoft malarkey pays more than milking cows.

and this is coming from the guy who last year was going to revolutionise airsoft with his uni project until he found out the hard way r&d requires a hell of a lot more money and multi-functional expertise than one student can obtain.

we also need to remember the reality of this industry is it's literally built on ripping off people's ideas, so as much as your reluctance to provide facts that could be stolen is admirable you're eventually going to have to unveil this idea of yours to the world and the moment that happens if it has any substance then you're going to be ripped off by every country in aisa who understands the reality of patent law.

Ok, you get it! I’ll also get in touch with you today. 

Also having looked at OPs website, it claims they have access to a QE Aircraft carrier as a "training aid". Now apart from calling utter BS on that, and all the other ridiculous "training and recruitment"  they apparently offer, its also full of random youtube clips that mean nothing and have nothing to do with OPs site/business or airsoft.

But at least it looks flashy.

Where do I sign up for my Aircraft Carrier training?

Flashy, thanks. I was aiming for simple. 

So that’s LVC and for the military I’m afraid. But you never know. 

Don't flatter yourself. Literally 2 minutes of google and there it all is. The fact that I felt compelled to (for lack of a better word) expose you should NOT make you feel good about yourself. The sarcasm and deflection is also noted. 

You are far from any professional I would ever like to work with. Infact calling you professional is wrong. You are far from Professional.

But hey - I used to make up websites for businesses with the hope of watching them bring me in lots of money all from the comfort of my bedroom... When I was 13. You are full of marketing BS and buzzwords.

Good luck on your half assed and ill-thought out ideas. 

I’m was being straight with you, to be honest, you sound a little upset. I hope you continue to post on the forum, don’t let me put you off. 

 

[L3wisD]

I didn’t change it from “thread closing” to “invitation closing”

That was a moderator decision to change the wording.

You do not have the authority to decide when your thread will be locked if things aren't panning out as you hoped.

And we didn't want members to believe you had an agreement with the moderating team over this thread.

The thread will remain open.

 

[Seth_Erebor]

That was a moderator decision to change the wording.

You do not have the authority to decide when your thread will be locked if things aren't panning out as you hoped.

And we didn't want members to believe you had an agreement with the moderating team over this thread.

The thread will remain open.

Understandable, I won’t be monitoring it past that date, 3 days is enough time to get an answer. 

I hoped to find someone and I expected this as I’ve seen it before. 

Info or no info, nothing would have changed. 

 

[E21A]

Wow, there is some weapons grade waffle going on in here! ?

 

[tasum]

This thread has intrigued me. I share the scepticism expressed by others, but sometimes even apparent loons come up with a bright idea (no offence meant).

I'm afraid I cannot elaborate on my own occupation or past experience on an open forum, but would be happy to have a brief chat about your proposal on a  purely confidential/non-committal basis this evening while I am conveying a high value asset to a distant location. Please drop me a message with your mobile number and I will call you.

If you are a serious innovator with a good idea that may benefit the community, then I'm happy to invest a few minutes on hearing you out. 

I hope to hear from you. If not, good luck with your venture, but I'd make it a priority to take advice on the manner in which you  approach potential partners, as this approach has succeeded in irritating and producing a negative response rather than producing the expected wonder and awe. There are many mature, very experienced and capable people on this forum, one of them may be exactly what you are looking for. If what you are proposing is genuine and not a teenage fantasy you may find some genuine support from the community.

However, we none of us appear to enjoy reading buzz words and vague references that remind us of all of the unsolicited dross we are bombarded with every minute of every day.

I await your pm.

 

[CorporalToast]

I have a cracking idea lads, its called TwoTonebutRifsrwelcome Airsoft 9.0 but at this moment in time i cant disclose my actual idea, Its on a need to know basis (in the clouds) but if anybody wants a link to my professional portfolio and website its https://www.i'mfullofshit.co.nothanks 

Feel free to pm me if anybody is interested in just running the whole thing for me.

 

[Rogerborg]

You keep saying we

Mmm, approach with considerable caution, and for feck's sake don't put in any more time than you can afford to lose.

From what I can see, the plan is commercial milsim with model planes and helicopters buzzing around, and maybe a rusty APC or facsimile thereof parked down the end of the field.

Sure, that'll take seventy-eight figures to run properly, but I'm not sure where the money is coming from or who the target market is supposed to be.  I can't see it being sustainable as a corporate jolly, and it's not like we have a lot of demand for mercenaries in the UK.

Conceivably you could pitch it to the army as a recruitment aid, given their inability to get warm bodies in the door.   Come and experience fantasy-reality. Honest, being in the real army is just like this, it's all pew-pew-pew larks, and definitely not painting rocks and standing watch in the rain until an IED blows your balls off.

 

[tasum]

Quick update. I spoke to Seth at the weekend and he's a nice chap with a clear technical input into his idea. I believe he just lacks the confidence in his own ability to present his ideas, hence his reluctance to expand on his thread. 

It sounds like a good concept, but needs some clarifying to work out whether the numbers add up. I'm not an accountant, but that may well be the function he's missing. That explains his shout out for an FD who would fulfil that function.

I'm sure he'd appreciate any help someone with the appropriate background can offer. I understand the scepticism on here, but it may turn into something we can all enjoy. It may not.

I wish him well in the world of investment and finance. 

Keep us posted Seth and good luck.

 

[Samurai]

but that may well be the function he's missing.

And handling social media.

 

[EvilMonkee]

As a qualified accountant I am intrigued by what he has to say.

As a cynical policeman I smell bullshit......

 

[Seth_Erebor]

As a qualified accountant I am intrigued by what he has to say.

As a cynical policeman I smell bullshit......

You’re both?

Well, I guess there are financial crimes. 

I’ve got back to back meetings today, are able to chat this evening after 6?

And handling social media.

I’m banning myself from Twitter from now mate ?

 

[EvilMonkee]

You’re both?

Well, I guess there are financial crimes. 

I’ve got back to back meetings today, are able to chat this evening after 6?

Yes, I am both, people do have lives before they join the police.  I am currently military police and was civilian police before that and qualified some time before that.  No, I have no interest in listening to your idea.