Eye Protection - Mesh or no mesh?

[Reznik]

Good tip, never touch the lens on the inside. The acids from your hands stick to the lens and cause water particles to stick to the acid, causing more condensation than you'd get without touching them. Saying that I got a cheap pair of mesh goggles off eBay and I'll never go back to polycarbonate lenses

 

[RedFox89]

Got in touch with Heroshark and he has informed me he is getting in some over-the-glass (OTG) goggle frames for the spectacle-wearing peeps that would like that option, sounds good to me!

Being new to this I had to google what OTG meant I have to admit lol.

 

[Fumps]

Finding this thread really useful.

I need to ask though, does all mesh goggle project the same from the forehead ?

The reason I ask is that I have a pair of mesh goggles & I cant use them because my girly eye lashes keep catching in the holes of the mesh & it irritates my eyes. So i use the below, they are fully impact rated, give great vision but as you know, they can fog slightly on the edges.

I'd prefer to use mesh but the eye lash thing makes them too weird to use.

 

[NickM]

I had that issue Fumps. My solution was to add a thin layer of old camping mat foam to the rims of the goggles. This added about 2 or 3 millimetres to the goggles and raised them out of range of my eyelashes. Over time the foam compresses and I have to add a bit more. I did the same with my mask over the nose and cheekbones so my chin no longer grazes the mesh.

 

[Fumps]

I had that issue Fumps. My solution was to add a thin layer of old camping mat foam to the rims of the goggles. This added about 2 or 3 millimetres to the goggles and raised them out of range of my eyelashes. Over time the foam compresses and I have to add a bit more. I did the same with my mask over the nose and cheekbones so my chin no longer grazes the mesh.

Cheers mate will give that a go.

 

[Anarchy]

At the moment I've changed from mesh to some issue British army goggles by Revision, they have yet to fog up even with a balaclava and they make an attachment for prescription lenses to put inside the goggles

 

[Ian_Gere]

At the moment I've changed from mesh to some issue British army goggles by Revision, they have yet to fog up even with a balaclava and they make an attachment for prescription lenses to put inside the goggles

Are they Bullet Ants, Anarchy?

 

[Anarchy]

yup

 

[Esoterick]

Thought I'd pop this in here instead of creating a new thread:

http://www.shadowstalkers.org/news-page/man-down-skirmish-mansfield

Basically a chap has taken a hit to the eye by means of it ricocheting inside his shooting glasses. Not good, however unlikely it may be.

 

[jcheeseright]

hoooly shit, sounds like something that nearly happened to me a while back, lower mesh had 'slipped' and left a tiny gap between itself and the bottom of my glasses and a BB bounced off the top of the mesh and behind my glasses. Fortunately it hit me below the eyelid and no harm was really done, but it did give me a heck of a shock, so much so that now in CQB I wear full seal and nothing else.

Woodland I forego the lower mesh and use a gumshield, working on the basis that if there's nothing to cause a BB to ricochet, it can't get under there!

 

[Esoterick]

Yeah it's definitely worth considering even if it would be a one in a million chance the shot both ricochets under the lenses and manages to make it's way into your eye. I personally get on pretty well with a pair of ESS Advancer V12s, they fog slightly every now and then but it obscures your vision less than mesh does still, plus I could basically be upside down and they wouldn't slip off my head.

I'd like to get a pair of smith optics regulators for comparison at some point - I'm sure there are goggles that don't fog up at all, at least for me. My Addidas Yodai goggles I use for snowboarding will only fog up if I pull my jacket up over my mouth so all the moisture from my breath is funneled into them.

Out of interest do you just use a bog standard gumshield? I've seen mention of some weird flatter type before but I'm not sure what they are called, just that they are less restrictive.

 

[jcheeseright]

I use the weird flatter type, they're made by a company called SISU and once it's in I hardly notice it's there. So much so I tried to bite into a snickers while wearing it once... didn't work.

 

[Cheeky vimto]

I had that issue Fumps. My solution was to add a thin layer of old camping mat foam to the rims of the goggles. This added about 2 or 3 millimetres to the goggles and raised them out of range of my eyelashes. Over time the foam compresses and I have to add a bit more. I did the same with my mask over the nose and cheekbones so my chin no longer grazes the mesh.

If you want I can post some thicker, soft foam. It's roughly 8mm-10mm thick. It's used to make a seal on radiator cowlings so once it's stuck on there it won't come off.

 

[jay83]

I use mesh at the moment but im not 100% happy about it, i wana buy some Smith Optic Turbo fan Balisic goggles, There about £150 but thats done then. Buy cheap buy twice. Normal goggles you can do the washing up liquid thing and all those anti fog wipes but there never 100% results they always fog right at the point when you dont need it.

 

[Lozart]

Yeah it's definitely worth considering even if it would be a one in a million chance the shot both ricochets under the lenses and manages to make it's way into your eye. I personally get on pretty well with a pair of ESS Advancer V12s, they fog slightly every now and then but it obscures your vision less than mesh does still, plus I could basically be upside down and they wouldn't slip off my head.

I'd like to get a pair of smith optics regulators for comparison at some point - I'm sure there are goggles that don't fog up at all, at least for me. My Addidas Yodai goggles I use for snowboarding will only fog up if I pull my jacket up over my mouth so all the moisture from my breath is funneled into them.

Out of interest do you just use a bog standard gumshield? I've seen mention of some weird flatter type before but I'm not sure what they are called, just that they are less restrictive.

I have the V12 Advancers too but a funny thing (if slightly scary) happened last time out - I took a pretty hard shot to the head, just above my left eyebrow. As I was walking back to the spawn saying polite and gentlemanly things about my enemy I noticed something moving at the lower extremity of my field of view. I got the marshal to shine his torch into the goggles and found that the BB had actually ricocheted down into the lens pod! There it was just rolling about without a care in the world. Little bastard.

 

[Lowlander]

Ive had that happen a couple of times with my bolle pilot goggles, I think they slip in the gap between the frame seal and my glasses leg, Just Upgraded to a pair of Tracker 2s with precrition insert. Tried mesh when i started but found they triggered migranes. properly industrial / military rated polycarb scince then. (minimum of EN166 class B lenses)

 

[RedFox89]

Christ that sounded awful for that guy in the article. Hope he makes a full recovery, I can't imagine losing eyesight for even a short amount of time!

I have tracker 2's but they kept fogging - I have on order some mesh OTG goggles from heroshark that he just got the frames in for. Looking forward to seeing how they do!

 

[Ian_Gere]

I have the V12 Advancers too but a funny thing (if slightly scary) happened last time out - I took a pretty hard shot to the head, just above my left eyebrow. As I was walking back to the spawn saying polite and gentlemanly things about my enemy I noticed something moving at the lower extremity of my field of view. I got the marshal to shine his torch into the goggles and found that the BB had actually ricocheted down into the lens pod! There it was just rolling about without a care in the world. Little bastard.

Shit, I use V12 Advancers, just with custom mesh instead of polycarb (because they fog). Where do you reckon the BB got in, between the frame and your skin, or between the pod and frame?

 

[Lozart]

sh*t, I use V12 Advancers, just with custom mesh instead of polycarb (because they fog). Where do you reckon the BB got in, between the frame and your skin, or between the pod and frame?

Honestly not sure mate. It certainly didn't have any force when it got it as I only noticed it when it was rolling about. My guess was between the lens pod and the frame as I have them open for venting. Pretty small gap there though. Unless of course I actually took more than one hit - one that I felt and the other that snuck in around the side of the pod?

 

[Monty]

I had a fragment of either a BB or the paint on my mesh goggles fly into my eye while I was in game, but that was a one off, just felt like sand in my eye.