Battlefield 4

proffrink said:
Call of Duty 1, 2 and 3 were amazing - when we refer to the progressively shitty Modern Warfare series can we play make sure we're not calling it 'COD'? The old games were absolutely fantastic.

Throwing potatoes into bathtubs!
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Don't forget Blops 1/2/probably Ghosts.

 
It's very much a different game I think, plays more like a mixture of Medal of Honour and CoD than Battlefield, especially in the sense that guns have almost no recoil and the incredibly ridiculous, arcady drop on tank shells.

But I like it a lot, played the shit out of it. Also, there's still that glitch happening on console where you lose the mag if you reload, and I've got to say, I really like it. The ammo conservation tactics you have to employ make the game so much more satisfying when you pull of kill streaks.

It's like, "I've got half a mag left, the bullets might come in handy... But, if I'm rushed by more guys than that can deal with, I might not live to use them anyway..."

Do you reload to stand a better chance against more people, and take the hit in ammo?

Or do you take the hit in ammo and stand a better chance in your next encounter?

It's making me a much better player I think, had quite a few games where I've gone 30 or more kills with barely more than 5 deaths.

 
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Airsoft-Ed said:
But I like it a lot, played the sh*t out of it. Also, there's still that glitch happening on console where you lose the mag if you reload, and I've got to say, I really like it. The ammo conservation tactics you have to employ make the game so much more satisfying when you pull of kill streaks.
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That shouldn't be a glitch, a lot of games have that as feature, which I like. It's not like you're going to empty the rounds from a magazine to top up another one in the middle of a firefight.

One of the reasons I like ArmA so much is that it remembers how many rounds are left in each magazine, when you re-load, it puts the one with the most in the gun. If you re-load after every few shots, like people do in most FPS games, then you'll eventually be left with 10 magazines with 3 or 4 shots in each.

 
Liam Porter said:
That shouldn't be a glitch, a lot of games have that as feature, which I like. It's not like you're going to empty the rounds from a magazine to top up another one in the middle of a firefight.

One of the reasons I like ArmA so much is that it remembers how many rounds are left in each magazine, when you re-load, it puts the one with the most in the gun. If you re-load after every few shots, like people do in most FPS games, then you'll eventually be left with 10 magazines with 3 or 4 shots in each.
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I play on an Arma server which has the merge magazine script which is pretty cool. It takes a while so it isn't something you can do under fire. ACRE is also immense.

 
Liam Porter said:
That shouldn't be a glitch, a lot of games have that as feature, which I like. It's not like you're going to empty the rounds from a magazine to top up another one in the middle of a firefight.

One of the reasons I like ArmA so much is that it remembers how many rounds are left in each magazine, when you re-load, it puts the one with the most in the gun. If you re-load after every few shots, like people do in most FPS games, then you'll eventually be left with 10 magazines with 3 or 4 shots in each.
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It clearly is a glitch though, because you lose chamber rounds from your overall ammo pool whenever you do a short reload.

Also, if you try it with shotguns, then the mechanic is broken as fuck, 'cos for every one shell you put in the gun, you lose a full tube's worth from your ammo pool. So each single shot costs you about 7 from your overall ammo.

I do really like it though. Minus how it works on shotguns. But I would prefer it if you came back to the mags at the end, 'cos you wouldn't just lob a mag on the floor. Especially if it was from an obscure weapon with unique magazines.

 
I remember one of the Ghost Recon/GRAW games having the whole lose what's in the mag when you reload mechanic. Made it interesting having limited ammo of course but then...it IS just a game.

 
I like games in which you lose that mag if you do a tactical reload, makes you think about being more conservative. Has anyone heard about that Europe VS USA competition on the Xbox? Seems like an interesting thing that I will end up doing :D

 
Would be nice to see that in hardcore modes, and then the normal thing in standard modes, or, give server owners the option to turn it on/off, only problem with that is, no-one would actually turn it on.

 
Does it flow smoother than the previous game?

 
That's one of the main things that stopped me playing bf3 regularly, it always felt sort of jerky after playing cod or whatever

 
CoD was the only game on current gen consoles that ran at 60 frames per second.

BF3 and everything else was limited to 30fps. So BF4 will be the same as BF3 in that respect. On current gen at least.

On next gen it's getting buffed to 60fps, so then it'll be a lot smoother.

 
Can't wait for next gen. It's sad to see that over time your system just can't run all the great games there are coming out how you'd like them to.

I've got to say, through playing the beta, I will definitely be buying the full game. For me, it flows much MUCH smoother than BF3, and seeing that building coming down always wows me.

Still, IMO Ghosts looks semi - promising. CODs always been the best flowing game for me, but then that's probably just due to the good frame rate aha...

 
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CoD was the only game on current gen consoles that ran at 60 frames per second.

BF3 and everything else was limited to 30fps. So BF4 will be the same as BF3 in that respect. On current gen at least.

On next gen it's getting buffed to 60fps, so then it'll be a lot smoother.
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Cheers Ed, that would explain it then :)

 
The only thing I don't like about BF4 at the moment is that the mini gun's on the helicopters are incredibly under powered against troops, it's more challenging, which is good I guess.

 
I'm used to playing Hardcore on BF3 so all the weapons seem shit to me. But the DMRs are especially wank and so is the tank's .50 and coaxial MG.

And don't even get me started on the tank shell drop. Anyone would think they weighed 50 tons and were made of magnets, firing over a metal range...

 
Unless your playing this game on next gen or pc forget it. It's shocking the maps are downsized and graphics are rubbish. Pc gaming beats everything and also i have fell through the map about 5 times in the single player campaign. If your a pc gamer look up arma 3 best game ever

 
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