TRMR Stolen.

[Colin Allen]

As someone currently handling inheritance tax for an estate, I can assure you that HMRC have different views.

... and then sites get dragged into the process of dealing with it.  It's not right, but it's pragmatic.  After all, the substance of why we're there is to shoot and get shot: bangs are flavouring.

I remember seeing reports of other kit being stolen in safe zones, including helmets and pistols; should those be banned as well?  After all, they could equally be considered “flavouring”.

Banning BFGs because people might steal them is perverse.

I disagree as to why we are at Airsoft sites.  We are there to play a game; bangs, whether they are BFGs or paper pyro, are very much part of that game at sites where they can be used.

 

[Haru]

a whole helmet going missing is crazy ?. ill never leave my stuff out in the open, everything goes back in the bag when heading back into gamezone

 

[Rogerborg]

I remember seeing reports of other kit being stolen in safe zones, including helmets and pistols; should those be banned as well?

If I was unclear, I'm not advocating for a ban on BFGs. I have 4 of the things.  I said I'd understand it.

Banning BFGs because people might steal them is perverse.

Pineapple on pizza is perverse. Not wanting to have to spend time dealing with lost-maybe-stolen BFGs on a regular basis isn't unreasonable.  It would be better to identify and evict thieves, but short of that, removing opportunity is a very regrettable amelioration that can be applied.

I disagree as to why we are at Airsoft sites.  We are there to play a game; bangs, whether they are BFGs or paper pyro, are very much part of that game at sites where they can be used.

I'd be miffed if I couldn't use my BFGs, but I wouldn't stop playing because of it. Would you?

 

[Tackle]

Theft of bfg's is only one issue that threatens sites allowing their usage, but over the years I've seen numerous people struck by them when they're used inappropriately. 

If a site banned them for that reason alone, I wouldn't be surprised, nor would I disagree, & I have 2.

 

[concretesnail]

Theft of bfg's is only one issue that threatens sites allowing their usage, but over the years I've seen numerous people struck by them when they're used inappropriately. 

If a site banned them for that reason alone, I wouldn't be surprised, nor would I disagree, & I have 2.

You're not wrong. Playing the now gone bravo site in Birmingham, I took a trmr to the head. Someone threw it over a bar top surface as they came into the pub area and I was down behind it reloading. 

 

[Cannonfodder]

Banning BFGs to stop them getting nicked just seems like a lazy way of dealing the issue to me as the theiving shits will just move on to helping themselves to other things

You're not wrong. Playing the now gone bravo site in Birmingham, I took a trmr to the head. Someone threw it over a bar top surface as they came into the pub area and I was down behind it reloading. 

I had something similar happen to me a Bunker 51. Someone tossed an impact BFG through a doorway just as I was walking through, it hit me straight in the face and detonated. Fortunately it was the one time I was wearing my replica GSR which took the brunt of it so i just had a ringing in my ears rather than a broken nose

 

[Lozart]

Suffice to say that nothing in this thread has persuaded me to move away from a butt load of paper pyro. Apart from anything else I do so love showing myself up as the arthritic mess I am by attempting to yeet a bang at the enemy only for it to fall pathetically short and blow me up instead. Good times.

 

[gavinkempsell]

So sites should ban them because thieving cunts sometimes steal them?  The "logic" behind that is somewhat worrying.

Site owners can make their own rules, it's their 'business' and if theft was an issue it might cause their customers to go elsewhere. my local site has banned projectile grenades for H&S reasons, which doesn't seem to be an issue, if theft was prevelant at any business I attended then I wouldn't feel my property was safe to be left unattended & I would take measured to protect it, mud sticks and this thread kinda proves it in my eyes.

Opinions are like arseholes... everyone has one.

Mine is, I'm in favour of a ban if it's warranted, I'm not a site owner so my opinion only affects me.

 

[Shamal]

Suffice to say that nothing in this thread has persuaded me to move away from a butt load of paper pyro. Apart from anything else I do so love showing myself up as the arthritic mess I am by attempting to yeet a bang at the enemy only for it to fall pathetically short and blow me up instead. Good times.

Haha feel your pain fella.

I took out six of my team in a narrow corridor. Oh how we laughed!!

 

[Tactical Pith Helmet]

Same here. They're terrible cunts, aren't they?

Sadly, I'm in the same boat. 

HMRC... if anyone deserves a visit from Judge Death...

 

[Cannonfodder]

I'd be miffed if I couldn't use my BFGs, but I wouldn't stop playing because of it. Would you?

I probably wouldn't give up completely but I'd be looking around for a new site. A ban due to thefts would only punish innocent players while allowing the culprit off scott free which would only encourage them to do it again

if theft was prevelant at any business I attended then I wouldn't feel my property was safe to be left unattended & I would take measured to protect it,

Same here. Probably by not giving them my custom 

 

[Colin Allen]

If I was unclear, I'm not advocating for a ban on BFGs. I have 4 of the things.  I said I'd understand it.

I know that you were not; my comment was intended to point out that your "flavouring" argument was somewhat flawed.
 

Pineapple on pizza is perverse. Not wanting to have to spend time dealing with lost-maybe-stolen BFGs on a regular basis isn't unreasonable.  It would be better to identify and evict thieves, but short of that, removing opportunity is a very regrettable amelioration that can be applied.

Penalising innocent people because other people are tempted to commit crimes is perverse and is essentially an act of surrender to the criminals.
 

I'd be miffed if I couldn't use my BFGs, but I wouldn't stop playing because of it. Would you?

I don't use BFGs.  However, watching, and providing covering fire for, the lad as he works his way through a village armed with two BFGs and a pistol is like watching Messi at his peak; training wins every time.

I suspect that he would still play if he could not use them, but why should he have to give up using them because some thieving cunts cannot keep their hands off other people's property?
 

 

[Rogerborg]

Annoyingly reasonable points

If you're going to be like that, then you leave me with no option but to block and report, sir. Block and report. ?

 

[Colin Allen]

If you're going to be like that, then you leave me with no option but to block and report, sir. Block and report. ?

My lawyers will contact you.