A little help required with my Guarder Glock frame

[emilianoksa]

How did you get on with this?

You inspired me to swap the frame on my Gen.3 (Which also has a Guarder slide and barrel). I'm glad I did, this is definitely the more the version I remember in movies from my childhood.

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I managed to get it up and running.

The only remaining problem is that it won't hold a TM Glock 22 mag. Even if I hold the mag and push it up tight when shooting, it just blows out all the gas.

So I have decided to use it with a couple of my WE mags with 144a. I wonder if the original TM Glock 17 gen 3 mags without the metal reinforced mag release would work. However they aren't easy to find these days.

Irony is that I can use my TM Glock 22 in my WE Glocks, though as rocketdogbert says, they don't provide the best seal. Might just have to buy another TM Glock and keep it stock. Then I will have two mags for it.

Your gun looks great by the way. Love Gen 2 frames.

 

[Cr0-Magnon]

Glad you've got it sorted.

That's strange about the mags, I always assumed the only difference between the G17 & G22 mags were markings and baseplate.

 

[Guest]

Glad you've got it sorted.

That's strange about the mags, I always assumed the only difference between the G17 & G22 mags were markings and baseplate.

WE and TM mags aren’t the same, very similar though. 
 

TM G17 and G22 are as you said, except G22 are ambidextrous

 

[Cr0-Magnon]

G22 are ambidextrous

I'm pretty sure when I recently purchased a TM G17 Gen.3, it came with an ambi mag. Seems like all the ones they're making are.

Either way, I'm not sure how it's causing the issue with dropping out.

 

[Guest]

Either way, I'm not sure how it's causing the issue with dropping out

I don’t think it is lol

 

[emilianoksa]

Just an update for anyone who is interested or runs into the same problem I had.

The Spring under the front chassis just needed stretching a bit, as Rocketdogbert suggested.

As for the magazine issue, the TM Glock mags have a slightly thicker baseplate than the WE ones - only a couple of millimetres different but enough to make a difference on a Guarder frame. If I replace a TM baseplate on the TM mag with a WE baseplate , it works fine.

Of course an alternative would be to sand down the TM baseplate, but the WE ones are cheap enough to pick up.

 

[Cr0-Magnon]

Glad you got it sorted. Not sure on the correlation between baseplate thickness and mags staying in though?

 

[emilianoksa]

I assume those extra couple of millimeters on the baseplate prevent the mag from going in far enough to click. in place.

Of course Guarder frames will vary slightly in dimensions as all mass produced things do, and just because I had this problem it doesn't mean that others will too.