Height Over Bore

[Floperator]

simple, the majority of the time we're not being given the luxury of a man sized target.

we get a hand, or a leg, of half a face poking out from behind cover, a much smaller target. having the precision of both the pew and the optical setup to take advantage of those opportunities is useful.

The gameday before last I got a lovely little shot in when I saw the top half of a baseball cap poking above a hedgeline...it made a very satisfying sound ?

Yeah you can just walk the shots in shooting off the hip at 25 yards, but if you want to see and shoot people before they can see and shoot you, then an optic comes in damn useful.

 

[Rogerborg]

The gameday before last I got a lovely little shot in when I saw the top half of a baseball cap poking above a hedgeline

Whenever I do that, it's usually followed by a demented howl of "Marshal! Check your fire! Are you blind?"  Hi-vis vest + camo cap = <eye-roll.gif>

Wandering vaguely back on topic, I like high-rise optics in principle.  In practice, especially in CQB sites, I find it tends to result in sticking the barrel into a barricade.  I'm rather on the fence about them (and I keep shooting fences too).

And aesthetically... ?

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[Adolf Hamster]

Wandering vaguely back on topic, I like high-rise optics in principle.  In practice, especially in CQB sites, I find it tends to result in sticking the barrel into a barricade.  I'm rather on the fence about them (and I keep shooting fences too).

the worst one is when trying to fire through a narrow window or the like when in order to have the barrel clear of the bottom the optic is obscured at the top.

in RS you'd just tilt the gun sideways and it'd be close enough for government work but ofc that's not gonna work so well in airsoft....

 

[Davegolf]

Yeh barricade / barrel is a PITA with high HOB if your actually wanting to aim and no present a huge pop-up-pirate

 

[Rogerborg]

All the sites I play at have "no firing through a gap you can't get your head through" rules, so it should always be possible to get barrel and optic through the same hole.  In practice though, I do keep popping up just enough to just get the optic or sights on target, then shred wood.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Yeh barricade / barrel is a PITA with high HOB if your actually wanting to aim and no present a huge pop-up-pirate

yep, best i've managed is trying to angle my head and use the blockaded optic like an oeg, which kinda sorta works and is only marginally slower than pulling a qd optic and just walking the rounds in

All the sites I play at have "no firing through a gap you can't get your head through" rules, so it should always be possible to get barrel and optic through the same hole.  In practice though, I do keep popping up just enough to just get the optic or sights on target, then shred wood.

the pk-1 says hi

 

[Davegolf]

All the sites I play at have "no firing through a gap you can't get your head through" rules, so it should always be possible to get barrel and optic through the same hole.  In practice though, I do keep popping up just enough to just get the optic or sights on target, then shred wood.

Then you shout 'friendly fire' 'check your fire ffs' 'marshal' ?

 

[Druid799]

simple, the majority of the time we're not being given the luxury of a man sized target.

we get a hand, or a leg, of half a face poking out from behind cover, a much smaller target. having the precision of both the pew and the optical setup to take advantage of those opportunities is useful.

Not saying I’m ‘deadshot’ or anything like that but even when it’s a small amount of player visible I can still usually hit them no problem without ‘optical assistance’ just through having a pretty good idea were the bb is likely to go as I alway try holding my guns the same way and aim and shoot from the same position every time I engage a target ?

wether that’s because I learned to shoot with iron sights and never with optics of any sort I don’t know , could be I suppose .

 

[Tackle]

Not saying I’m ‘deadshot’ or anything like that but even when it’s a small amount of player visible I can still usually hit them no problem without ‘optical assistance’ just through having a pretty good idea were the bb is likely as I alway try holding my guns the same way and aim and shoot from the same position every time I engage a target ?

wether that’s because I learned to shoot with iron sights and never with optics of any sort I don’t know , could be I suppose .

Definitely, British army always trained to be competent first & foremost on iron sights, often at extended ranges, those are the skills that never leave us?

 

[Tactical Pith Helmet]

Not saying I’m ‘deadshot’ or anything like that but even when it’s a small amount of player visible I can still usually hit them no problem without ‘optical assistance’ just through having a pretty good idea were the bb is likely to go as I alway try holding my guns the same way and aim and shoot from the same position every time I engage a target ?

wether that’s because I learned to shoot with iron sights and never with optics of any sort I don’t know , could be I suppose .

I taught my daughter to shoot with irons.  At 14 she beat the then junior champion HFT number one in a shootout.  She could hardly miss with an optic.  

Muscle memory, consistent cheek weld/mount and experience win each time.  

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Not saying I’m ‘deadshot’ or anything like that but even when it’s a small amount of player visible I can still usually hit them no problem without ‘optical assistance’ just through having a pretty good idea were the bb is likely to go as I alway try holding my guns the same way and aim and shoot from the same position every time I engage a target ?

wether that’s because I learned to shoot with iron sights and never with optics of any sort I don’t know , could be I suppose .

oh for sure, the few times i've ran irons i haven't had too much trouble making awkward shots, and for sure i would not rank myself as any kind of expert marksman, or for that matter a particularly good marskman at all

but it's defo easier to do when both the sighting system and rif are working in your favour.