Tokyo Marui, are they always a safe bet?

[RostokMcSpoons]

Random CAPITALISATION for THE WIN !!!

 

[SBoardley]

I have the 2011-1911, been pretty solid to date and out performs others, the other week when it was cold, my pistols were the only pistols working when others would get 2 or 3 shots and the gas is done, mine kept on firing fine.

People again with this FPS thing, it is a fixed energy rating. DO THE MATH....

A 0.2g BB fired at 320 feet per second is travelling at 218 miles an hour. (just to bring the FPS in to a realm that most of us understand)

SO why do you need to go faster? These are SAFETY LIMITS that are imposed by government and the sites in turn may have their specific rules and limits like the site my son likes out of all the ones he goes to is now weighing BB's to stop people subbing higher weight than was chronograph with.

ITS A SPORT AND GAME and it seems to me that the idea most people have is to want to have higher FPS to just hurt people as that is all that higher FPS does, hurt more, so maybe you're not suited to the sport...

All I can see in the future is airsoft will go the same way as guns and having to have proper background checks and regulations that will just stifle the sport and all because some want to push their luck.

Increasing the power can land you in trouble, serious trouble in the UK as the laws are ON THE  power and not FPS because FPS is the combination of the mass and the power, the FPS is variable based on how you select your load. SO you have a limited scope to work with, if you want to play with the law, remember that as soon as you break the JOULES LEGAL LIMIT it became an actual firearms offence, just possessing it is an offence and your choice if you want to play with the law like that. Its not the VCRA that airsoft is governed by, its also HSE and Firearms laws and Police and Crime act and several other laws that will be lurking in the wings. 

Summary is this...

WORK WITH WHAT YOU GOT BY DOING THE MATH.

Mansplain what the actual this has to do with choosing a TM ….PLeaSe!

 

[heroshark]

I have the 2011-1911, been pretty solid to date and out performs others, the other week when it was cold, my pistols were the only pistols working when others would get 2 or 3 shots and the gas is done, mine kept on firing fine.

1911 and hi capa are 2 different animals. Capa will let off a greater amount of consistent shots in the cold due to the large gas reservoir a single stack mag 1911 not so much. 

 

[Stratton Oakmont]

WORK WITH WHAT YOU GOT BY DOING THE MATH.

MATHS

 

[Rogerborg]

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I don't.

I got too scarified by the MATHS being over 9000 in the "orbital space guns in a vacuum" thread.

 

[Lozart]

I have the 2011-1911, been pretty solid to date and out performs others, the other week when it was cold, my pistols were the only pistols working when others would get 2 or 3 shots and the gas is done, mine kept on firing fine.

By "the 2011-1911" do you mean the M45A1? Because that's not the same internally. It has a 15mm BBU to address the exact problem I was talking about.

 

[RostokMcSpoons]

As I'm asking Santa to bring me a TM pistol for Xmas (a somewhat forlorn hope - apart from my wife resisting spending more on airsoft, would a retailer accept my UKARA ref on an order being paid for by someone else?) I have a question regarding the Hi-Capa's and the 15mm BBU.

Allegedly the D.O.R version of the Hi-Capa now has the 15mm BBU, which would make it perfect for me
(I like the simpler 1911's.  I'm not fussed about putting on a optic.  The price is currently £135 at Defcon, so no premium for the unused red dot capability)

Can anyone confirm it's true though?

https://www.airsoftsociety.com/threads/tokyo-marui-hicapa-d-o-r-dor.159313/

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

I have the 2011-1911, been pretty solid to date and out performs others, the other week when it was cold, my pistols were the only pistols working when others would get 2 or 3 shots and the gas is done, mine kept on firing fine.

People again with this FPS thing, it is a fixed energy rating. DO THE MATH....

A 0.2g BB fired at 320 feet per second is travelling at 218 miles an hour. (just to bring the FPS in to a realm that most of us understand)

SO why do you need to go faster? These are SAFETY LIMITS that are imposed by government and the sites in turn may have their specific rules and limits like the site my son likes out of all the ones he goes to is now weighing BB's to stop people subbing higher weight than was chronograph with.

ITS A SPORT AND GAME and it seems to me that the idea most people have is to want to have higher FPS to just hurt people as that is all that higher FPS does, hurt more, so maybe you're not suited to the sport...

All I can see in the future is airsoft will go the same way as guns and having to have proper background checks and regulations that will just stifle the sport and all because some want to push their luck.

Increasing the power can land you in trouble, serious trouble in the UK as the laws are ON THE  power and not FPS because FPS is the combination of the mass and the power, the FPS is variable based on how you select your load. SO you have a limited scope to work with, if you want to play with the law, remember that as soon as you break the JOULES LEGAL LIMIT it became an actual firearms offence, just possessing it is an offence and your choice if you want to play with the law like that. Its not the VCRA that airsoft is governed by, its also HSE and Firearms laws and Police and Crime act and several other laws that will be lurking in the wings. 

Summary is this...

WORK WITH WHAT YOU GOT BY DOING THE MATH.

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[Lozart]

As I'm asking Santa to bring me a TM pistol for Xmas (a somewhat forlorn hope - apart from my wife resisting spending more on airsoft, would a retailer accept my UKARA ref on an order being paid for by someone else?) I have a question regarding the Hi-Capa's and the 15mm BBU.

Allegedly the D.O.R version of the Hi-Capa now has the 15mm BBU, which would make it perfect for me
(I like the simpler 1911's.  I'm not fussed about putting on a optic.  The price is currently £135 at Defcon, so no premium for the unused red dot capability)

Can anyone confirm it's true though?

https://www.airsoftsociety.com/threads/tokyo-marui-hicapa-d-o-r-dor.159313/

Yes, the DOR version is the one with the 15mm BBU.

The one thing to bear in mind is that the vast majority of aftermarket slides are for the OLD style BBU. HiCapas do not suffer from the same horrific lack of gas capacity that the standard 1911's do though so any HiCapa will be absolutely fine. That said, the DOR is £129 on Fire Support right now https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/tokyo-marui-gas-blowback-hicapa-dor-dor-pistol

 

[Adolf Hamster]

I got too scarified by the MATHS being over 9000 in the "orbital space guns in a vacuum" thread.

you had to bring that up, i'd just about got that blanked from my memory......

 

[AirSniper]

MATHS

Mathematics...

I said MATH to accommodate our american friends who seem to visit here a lot.

 

[Enid_Puceflange]

Gotta laff ?

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Anyway, back on topic

I started off with a Krytac, great rif, upgraded barrel and hop and it served me faultlessly for two year - but it was soulless 

A bit like driving a nice Japanese car

I moved to a TM Scar recoil, again, same upgrades but still felt lacking. That stayed with me for about 4 months ? before I accidentally moved to gbbr’s 

As my gbbr is a bit of a whinging wee tart unless it’s about 20 deg outside (which is twice a year in Scotland) I have again bought a TM recoil for use during the colder months of the year. For the simple reason I trust it to work out of the bag every time. 
This can be said about the majority of manufacturers RIF’s out there as long as you don’t unnecessarily tamper with the internals.

I don’t think that TM are the saviour of the sport.

I think that 80% of the other manufacturers out there will give as good a performance with a little bit of attention by just adding a decent hop rubber and a premium barrel.

But does that defeat the purpose of buying a cheaper gun in the first place?

Im seeing lots of our players attending with makes that I wouldn’t have considered a couple of years ago and they look & feel great in the hand, but shoot just as well as a TM. 
So to summarise 

I don’t know! ??‍

 

[RostokMcSpoons]

Anyway, back on topic

I started off with a Krytac, great rif, upgraded barrel and hop and it served me faultlessly for two year - but it was soulless 

A bit like driving a nice Japanese car

Interesting analogy. 

My first car was a classic English sports car.  Smelled of hot oil all the time, leaked water in the rain, wouldn't go above 60mph, and every time I hit 3rd gear the gearstick would nudge the fast forward button on the tape deck "Screeeeeech".    Damn thing was put to death at the first MOT with rusty sills.
Bags of character though.

But when 'character' tends to be a list of faults or foibles, how desirable is that, really?

Edit: And oh yeah, definitely "maths". We're in the UK.  We do quite enough to accommodate our Yankee cousins, no need to mutilate our lingo too

 

[Druid799]

View attachment 82504                       Can also come from being a right cunoot that no one likes ?? 

 

[rj1986]

As a TM fanboy, i have too many NGRS. But every game day i take a stock one with me - its nice to know that i will always have one that will work in case everything else shits the bed.

 

[Enid_Puceflange]

Interesting analogy. 

My first car was a classic English sports car.  Smelled of hot oil all the time, leaked water in the rain, wouldn't go above 60mph, and every time I hit 3rd gear the gearstick would nudge the fast forward button on the tape deck "Screeeeeech".    Damn thing was put to death at the first MOT with rusty sills.
Bags of character though.

But when 'character' tends to be a list of faults or foibles, how desirable is that, really?

I drive a Defender as my daily, it’s like an abusive relationship 

I love it to bits, it kicks the shit out of my spine & my wallet !

?

 

[Lozart]

I drive a Defender as my daily, it’s like an abusive relationship 

I love it to bits, it kicks the shit out of my spine & my wallet !

?

I drive a Mazda because it starts when I want it to start and it's comfortable. Plus it has a cavernous boot that I can fit as many airsoft pews into as I could ever want!

I've had shit, old cars and it's not "character", that's just a thing we say to make up for it being shit.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

I drive a Mazda because it starts when I want it to start and it's comfortable. Plus it has a cavernous boot that I can fit as many airsoft pews into as I could ever want!

I've had shit, old cars and it's not "character", that's just a thing we say to make up for it being shit.

Same with my old Mondeo. Had it since new (10 years/113500 miles). Bulletproof, costs nothing to run, whopping massive great boot. No plans of offing it yet.

Other transport is a 125cc motorbike. Not so great at transporting airsoft gear but a rucksack sorts that. Although it's currently languishing in Eezer's garage awaiting repair after a rather catastrophic slip on black ice last week.

 

[Rogerborg]

currently languishing in Eezer's garage awaiting repair after a rather catastrophic slip on black ice last week

Bloody ice, it comes over here, it lays around on our roads, contributes nothing, shouldn't ought to be allowed.  :angry:

Royal Enfields have character.  I'm not saying that my 2008 with 1950s designed British technology made to Indian QC with ropey Indian steel is a great bike, or even a good one, but it's by far my favourite.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

Bloody council, can't be arsed gritting a single track country B-road... one of these things, couldn't be helped. Chalk it up to experience and move on I suppose.

I always liked Japanese bikes, my Yamaha has been great, until my prang last week. Just hope the gearbox isn't buggered.