Gbls das Gdr 15 Skirmish Review

[AlphaBear]

@Urban assasin Yo dude, a thread to talk about your GBLS experience.  

 

[Hypokondrikern]

@mightyjebus

could you test the capacity of the HP mag without the pin set in any of the slots? Does it retain the bolt stop and how many bbs can you get inside?

much appreciated. 

 

[mightyjebus]

I'll give it a try

 

[Hypokondrikern]

@mightyjebus just found the answer in the GBLS discogs group. Around 90 bbs is the maximum you can load into the HPmag if you leave out the pin entirely. 

 

[Guest]

I’ve modified a few GBLS mags to be mid cap and windy wheel hi-cap, it’s not super hard

 

[Chev Chelios]

I’ve modified a few GBLS mags to be mid cap and windy wheel hi-cap, it’s not super hard

Mind posting a pic please? I assume you just chopped both mag internals in half and then glued the top das mag to the mid-cap/hi-cap lower?

 

[Guest]

Mind posting a pic please? I assume you just chopped both mag internals in half and then glued the top das mag to the mid-cap/hi-cap lower?

A bit more finesse than that, but basically that’s the idea.

I don’t have any pics, I did it for a buddy of mine a few months back.

if you take the original low caps apart, you can grind off the small tab that stops the bb follower and get and instant increase in capacity as well

 

[Hypokondrikern]

I think I’ll try to mod one KWA ERG mag according to the video @Chev Chelios posted. That gives you 120 rounds. But I don’t think I’d ever sell my mags and fully commit to modded mags. 

 

[Hypokondrikern]

@rocketdogbert Do you mean that a conventional AEG midcap can be used and still retain the bolt stop? Can the GBLS follower move freely in a typical AEG mag channel? I don't know why but I feel like building a gbls mag which looks like a PMAG 40 rounder. 

 

[Guest]

@rocketdogbert Do you mean that a conventional AEG midcap can be used and still retain the bolt stop? Can the GBLS follower move freely in a typical AEG mag channel? I don't know why but I feel like building a gbls mag which looks like a PMAG 40 rounder. 

Yes, you need to ensure the channel will take the GBLS follower, then the bolt stop will still work, as it works exactly like a gbb mag

 

[Hypokondrikern]

Yes, you need to ensure the channel will take the GBLS follower, then the bolt stop will still work, as it works exactly like a gbb mag

It doesn’t sound all that tricky to pull off. But one might buy a few mags before finding one that is compatible with the larger follower. I guess that KWA ERGS 120 mags should work. 

 

[Hypokondrikern]

@rocketdogbert Do you have any recommendations of mags that are good candidates for this mag build project? PTS EPM? 

 

[Guest]

@rocketdogbert Do you have any recommendations of mags that are good candidates for this mag build project? PTS EPM? 

Sorry no, I used what ever I had available 

 

[Halo]

@mightyjebusyou still rocking with it?  What is the long term feedback

Did anyone get off the shelf 120 mags to work 

Is there any point in this being a DMR rather than going for a 500fps sniper and just use as 340fps ish?

what is the maximum effective range possible on this?

I personally love it, tried in the shop but since I’m starting I’ve got the T10 atm 

 

[heroshark]

@mightyjebus

what is the maximum effective range possible on this?

90 airsoft meters ?

 

[mightyjebus]

@mightyjebusyou still rocking with it?  What is the long term feedback

yup, I carry 2 guns to a skirmish currently. One is the DAS and the other is the TM MP5 NGRS. The DAS hasn't missed a beat and I still love the recoil every time I use it.

Only negative is filling the mags is a pain in the arse as they are a bit tough on speedloaders.

Making it a DMR is possible but you'd probably be doing a lot of trail and error yourself to get the best results as it has a small owner footprint so the knowledge base is limited.

 

[Halo]

90 airsoft meters ?

You shouldn’t go round ‘quoting’ others ?

 

[Halo]

yup, I carry 2 guns to a skirmish currently. One is the DAS and the other is the TM MP5 NGRS. The DAS hasn't missed a beat and I still love the recoil every time I use it.

Only negative is filling the mags is a pain in the arse as they are a bit tough on speedloaders.

Making it a DMR is possible but you'd probably be doing a lot of trail and error yourself to get the best results as it has a small owner footprint so the knowledge base is limited.

My local tech chap is minutes away from me and he’s in a team of DAS owners.  Feedback I’ve had is the stock DAS was the best performance they could get and upgrades actually decreased performance in their tests.  Also they can hit targets at 88m, on stock at 350.  When I consult the charts it does advise 55m (.36s) so if that’s the case then theres something amazing going on.

DAS is dividing opinions it seems, I’d very much like to watch a demo on the range capabilities for myself but doubt that’s possible. 

if say, on stock I could get 80m then I’d buy one in a heartbeat as I know buying a sniper so early on would be a futile move and wouldn’t be the ideal backup gun

if the range is marginally better so say 60m against my 55m then that’s a big spend for that performance but some would still buy the DAS (inc myself) for the realism, 500 rnds is nice but 60rnd of proper rnds would payback way more smiles, I grin just with my T10 even….

So to buy a GBBR and have to pump in hundreds to get close to a DAS spec, not sure if that’s the best way, on paper might save a few quid but still, stock DAS sounds class already 

 

[Halo]

yup, I carry 2 guns to a skirmish currently. One is the DAS and the other is the TM MP5 NGRS. The DAS hasn't missed a beat and I still love the recoil every time I use it.

Only negative is filling the mags is a pain in the arse as they are a bit tough on speedloaders.

Making it a DMR is possible but you'd probably be doing a lot of trail and error yourself to get the best results as it has a small owner footprint so the knowledge base is limited.

That MP5 looks fun, did you mod yours?  Also who did you have to bribe to get hold of one??  Sold out everywhere by looks, luckily I’ve managed to snag a gateway mp5k but would love a recoil variant!

Perfect setup right there, keeping it real!

 

[Hypokondrikern]

@Halo

I have the DAS with the weakest spring (m90) and it shoots around 55 - 60 m with 0.28 - 0.32. The DAS is really a niche rifle that plays into the market between the TM MWS and NGRS series, in terms of its function. I have really only played with GBBRS the past 10 years but managed to pick up a GBLS for a very fair price from a kind seller. Since then, I have sold my GBBRS even the MWS is now being sold as the GBLS really caters to what I want from an airsoft rifle for skirmishing. 

# realistic manipulation ( this is true fro the GBLS except for the first heavy cocking of the spring, which can somehow be improved with a lighter spring )

# acceptable modularity 

# reliable / solid 

# lightweight mags that you can drop on the ground over and over again (although I don't think I'd do it on concrete / asphalt standing up)

# customer support ( Ross is doing an outstanding job helping me with all kinds of questions over email )

In other words this is not a rifle that is top of the line in terms of its performance but simply does a lot of things as a hybrid of sorts. This comes with a major caveat: the price. I could never afford a new one.