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What Have You Learned About Airsoft Recently?

Turn out that I just learned that somehow in 2021 folks are still using, and more worryingly recommending, 3 point slings.

Get a 2 point with a quick adjustment tab (Slingster, Trex Arms, Vickers to name a few… I imagine there are clones too if you care to run that gauntlet) and enjoy the aforementioned benefits without any of the draw backs that come with a 3 point.

I can think of only one time that it might be worth considering a 3 point and that if you’re hellbent on wanting an MP5 that’s correct to certain time periods. In this instance they’re still overly complicated piles of tangle wank, but at least ‘the look’ is right I guess ??‍♂️.
That’s the funny thing about personal choice , it’s your own choice ? 
everyone raves about EVO’s , me personally I wouldn’t piss on one if it was on fire absolutely detest the things . I’ve never owned one , never fired one matter of fact I’ve never even handle one but I still detest them . Simple personal choice , same as on a long gun M16/G3 I think a three point is the perfect sling to use . ?

 
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An F2000 is bad enough as it is, combined with a 3 point sling that’s a borderline war crime.


Its a fine weapon.....

As long as you're ok with a trigger from a black and decker......

Ah yes the F2000, my favourite Jet ski shaped weapon!

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I preferr tactical tuna myself :P

Also deleting smilies from a quote on mobile is basically impossible so, yeah, there's that.....

Totally disregard the fact that I'm on their side and hiding a few feet away from them


If you've got the drop on them from a few feet and you're aiming for headshots might be part of the reason folk are getting annoyed, jus' puttin it out there.

That’s the funny thing about personal choice , it’s your own choice ? 
everyone raves about EVO’s , me personally I wouldn’t piss on one if it was on fire absolutely detest the things . I’ve never owned one , never fired one matter of fact I’ve never even handle one but I still detest them . Simple personal choice , same as on a long gun M16/G3 I think a three point is the perfect sling to use . ?


The evo got a lot of bad rep by a certain type of user sure (just like a lot of airsoft stuff) but in fairness it is pretty damn good and one of the few guns even a serial tinkerer like me would reccommend be left alone.

 
If I was to sum up my feelings on 3 point slings in one image:

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And just to be clear I only raised my own opinion because it was given as a recommendation when the person making the recommendation hasn’t actually got experience with the thing they’re recommending i.e. combining a 3 point sling and an EVO. I wouldn’t usually be so pernickety but as others have highlighted they’re better on some RIFs than others because of how they get in the way of controls… especially on a RIF with a ‘bolt release’ of sorts.
 

There are literally forum rules regarding giving advice in this regard (yes, I’m aware I’m the only person that actually reads them).

 
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[SIZE=12.6px]The evo got a lot of bad rep by a certain type of user sure (just like a lot of airsoft stuff) but in fairness it is pretty damn good and one of the few guns even a serial tinkerer like me would reccommend be left alone.[/SIZE]
My point exactly my good friend , I’ve only ever heard good things about them and everyone I know who has one gets a semi boner every time they speak of them BUT I still think there a big fat lump of smegma from the devils foreskin ! I just hate them simple as that .?

 
If I was to sum up my feelings on 3 point slings in one image


Thats a gif :P

My point exactly my good friend , I’ve only ever heard good things about them and everyone I know who has one gets a semi boner every time they speak of them BUT I still think there a big fat lump of smegma from the devils foreskin ! I just hate them simple as that .?


i get it man, we all got guns we hate for no particular reason.

Like how i hate ar stocks on non-ar's (ak's being most prevalent but not exclusive victim). I understand how it came to be, and why people do it, but i still just hate it.

hmm, that could be an interesting thread.....

 
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@Adolf Hamster

"If you've got the drop on them from a few feet and you're aiming for headshots might be part of the reason folk are getting annoyed, jus' puttin it out there" 

I think you've missed my point slightly mate. I was being blamed by my own team for something that had nothing to do with me!

 
And on that note of an officially entirely detailed thread, I’ll go ahead and disappear


Oh aye, bail right before we have to put the effort in to re-rail the thread :P

@Adolf Hamster

"If you've got the drop on them from a few feet and you're aiming for headshots might be part of the reason folk are getting annoyed, jus' puttin it out there" 

I think you've missed my point slightly mate. I was being blamed by my own team for something that had nothing to do with me!


ahh, fair enough, my apologies.

 
Being new to this I’ve learnt that there’s a minefield of acronyms I need to get my head around before I even think about buying anything - starting to wonder if that’s what the UKARA rules are really for ?

I’ve also discovered there’s more midweek games around than I initially thought. Not tried CQB but it’ll make life easier if I do as weekends are fast becoming a logistical nightmare.

Oh and I like Beretta’s, specifically the M9 A3. No idea if they’re any good. Still navigating the sea of rifles ……. 

 
I find a 3 point sling very versatile and usable... as long as I have literally no other tactical kit on me for it to get caught on. It's worst with plate carriers. 

As for what I've learned, probably that there are ways for me to enjoy airsoft without getting to a game. I've not been playing for over 3 years now due to a mix of health, money and personal reasons which has been incredibly frustrating. Luckily I found 3d design work for my guns to be very helpful easing the pain of not playing. So I can look forward to taking out some very impressive and unique guns when I do eventually get to a game. 

 
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@Cr0-Magnon mine are very similar to yours, well the first two

1) mid-caps are the way forward

2) comfort over (uni)form

There was a three when i started but after a long arse day its gone

 
[SIZE=12.6px]I've not been playing for over 3 years now due to a mix of health, money and personal reasons[/SIZE]
Is it the queer beard?

Sorry, my generation can't help themselves, dragged up on a diet of innuendo & sarcasm?

 
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Turn out that I just learned that somehow in 2021 folks are still using, and more worryingly recommending, 3 point slings.

Get a 2 point with a quick adjustment tab (Slingster, Trex Arms, Vickers to name a few… I imagine there are clones too if you care to run that gauntlet) and enjoy the aforementioned benefits without any of the draw backs that come with a 3 point.

I can think of only one time that it might be worth considering a 3 point and that if you’re hellbent on wanting an MP5 that’s correct to certain time periods. In this instance they’re still overly complicated piles of tangle wank, but at least ‘the look’ is right I guess ??‍♂️.
Yes, I do. I've had only problems with 2 points. 1 points are great on the mp5k etc.

Ran it on the m4 first, great easy to adjust never got in the way.

Then the mp5 for obvious reasons same thing, easy to maneuver no catches.

The l86 with controls all along the side same thing no problem only enjoyment.

Admittedly however the evo might be a bit too short from sling point to sling point thinking about it. (Such a lack of distance makes them useless anyway)

In the end, just use whatever works for you! In my case 3 point slings.

 
Admittedly however the evo might be a bit too short from sling point to sling point thinking about it. (Such a lack of distance makes them useless anyway)


This has turned in to "which sling setup are you using at the moment?"

But "lack of distance" for an Evo ?

I have a stock one and there's a stretch of field at my local site where I can max out the range from a particular line, hitting some black netting without really "lobbing" the BB's. So I am tempted to pickup a range finder and check the distance.

 
Is it the queer beard?

Sorry, my generation can't help themselves, dragged up on a diet of innuendo & sarcasm?
A serious lapse in judgement made me shave off the tactical beard meaning I couldn't be seen in any of my kit until it has grown back to a respectable length ?

 
A serious lapse in judgement made me shave off the tactical beard meaning I couldn't be seen in any of my kit until it has grown back to a respectable length ?
Welp you're not alone.

Whenever I shave people ask for my ID when buying smokes -.-

I look like a 12yo without beard -.-

 
Here is what ive picked up from the games so far this year.

I like sites having under 18's days. not because of the really young 12 year old players (TBH they are always so happy to play with) but its the older teenagers who think overshooting people is funny and purposefully being destructive to purpose built structures. 

Mil-Sim games. Thats a big nope from me, the day becomes so slow paced and feels more like im feeding into a guys ego more than playing a game.

and final thing I've learnt.....More people need to know how to do basic tech work on their guns. Last game I went to 2 dudes went to the stall to buy new guns as the ones they arrived with were too hot. One dude quit after an hour because of gun issues (looked like hop rubber was fucked as BB just fell out) and a dude whos buffer tube was wobbling and he decided to break it off instead of just using a damn screwdriver to tighten it up.

 
and final thing I've learnt.....More people need to know how to do basic tech work on their guns. Last game I went to 2 dudes went to the stall to buy new guns as the ones they arrived with were too hot. One dude quit after an hour because of gun issues (looked like hop rubber was fucked as BB just fell out) and a dude whos buffer tube was wobbling and he decided to break it off instead of just using a damn screwdriver to tighten it up.


Yep. I'll always advocate for doing basic maintenance, tune-ups and simple upgrades yourself. It allows you to notice when something is wrong with your gun and immediately have ideas on what's wrong and how to fix it.

 
and final thing I've learnt.....More people need to know how to do basic tech work on their guns. Last game I went to 2 dudes went to the stall to buy new guns as the ones they arrived with were too hot. One dude quit after an hour because of gun issues (looked like hop rubber was fucked as BB just fell out) and a dude whos buffer tube was wobbling and he decided to break it off instead of just using a damn screwdriver to tighten it up.
BUT playing devils advocate the hot guns ? that’s the fault of the retailer who sold the guns to them in the first place not the players for lack of technical knowledge , really pisses me off the way British airsoft retailers are STILL sell guns you can’t use because there too hot or charge you to make it legal to use . You don’t go in to PC world to buy a new TV and expect to find an American plug on it , to then be told by the shop “oh thats not ours problem we just sell them , if you want to watch it you need to change the plug your self or we’ll do it for you and charge you 30quid !” Would you ?
Plus the minute you do crack it to change the spring your warranty is gone and the very same retailer who sold you a gun you had to alter your self to use will turn around and say “the gun stopped working ? Nope we won’t do anything about it you opened it up so you voided the warranty !” 
The hop rubber again if it’s a new gun retailer should have tested it first before selling it . I’ve never had to change a hop rubber because it was faulty only time I’ve changed them is for a better one or it’s a 2nd hand gun and previous owner been ‘fiddling’ and bollox’ed it up .

Buffer tube ? Just sounds like a spoilt bastard ! ?
PS you don’t use as screwdriver to tighten a buffer tube .?

 
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