Whats the worst experience with 'Cod Softers'

[Ian_Gere]

Yeah Fumps, I wouldn't worry too much. You already know what people are like: as members of a particular group we have ways of bigging up our chests at the expense of 'them', some undefined other whom are not 'us'. At the moment you naturally feel like we are 'them' because we have a common jargon, shorthand, and experiences similar enough that a full explanation isn't necessary, all of which you are yet to learn. But obviously you don't feel like one of the nebulous 'them' whom our inclusiveness and camradery exclude... so it wrankles, because, shit, you're here: that has got to count, right?

We could be football supporters, ballet dancers, traffic wardens, real special forces operators... no doubt you belong to several of this type of group yourself - you know what it's like: you don't have any specific animosity towards 'them' as individual people, in fact you'd probably be happy to tell them all about it and welcome them 'in'.

Now that's not to say that there aren't some of us whom, for whatever reason, suffer from a degree of insecurity which manifests as a strong desire to belong to a well defined group, to create strong bonds within the group, etc., but usually all in a dysfunctional unconscious way, which is the usual clique modus operandi. Still, you'll find people like that all over...

On behalf of airsoft as I understand it, welcome

 

[Fumps]

cheers for the encouragement fella.

I'm pretty thick skinned so not too bothered myself. I just thought I'd pop my opinion to this thread as yet I have very little to add to most stuff as I dont have the experience & knowledge you guys have.

I just wanted to show how it looks from an outsider looking in

If that makes any sense

 

[clumpyedge]

cheers for the encouragement fella.

I'm pretty thick skinned so not too bothered myself. I just thought I'd pop my opinion to this thread as yet I have very little to add to most stuff as I dont have the experience & knowledge you guys have.

I just wanted to show how it looks from an outsider looking in

If that makes any sense

my first time going i felt very "outside" everyone in their groups and what not. i quickly broke that and pretty much talked to everyone i could asking about their guns and what acronyms meant etc. then i joined here and have had numerous people help me along the way. i think the post that mentioned elitism is very true but i think you get that in any walk of life.

personally aisoft is a day just for me away from everything day to day, while i do get annoyed with cheaters from time to time (and like i say that happens in many walks of life) i usually just get on with it and let others do the same.

having youngsters going in my eyes is a good thing but when they are left to their own devices from my view some decide that's when they can either be cocky little turds and get a bit to up themselves or they take the opportunity to do what i did and learn from others around them but then that's down to the people at the site as well if you get jumped up ego warriors then the people that look up to them will inevitably become the same thing (not always true for everyone mind you)

welcome fumps hope you enjoy your first skirmish as much as i did and look forward to reading what you liked, didn't like and what you have planned after your first game

 

[Fumps]

lol

cheers the thread has been hijacked by the airsoft love :lol:

Yeh really looking forward to it.

 

[gazm1]

cheers for the encouragement fella.

I'm pretty thick skinned so not too bothered myself. I just thought I'd pop my opinion to this thread as yet I have very little to add to most stuff as I dont have the experience & knowledge you guys have.

I just wanted to show how it looks from an outsider looking in

If that makes any sense

Makes sense to me fella (minus the kid as I dont think my 3 year old is quite ready yet although she does love to play with daddy's 'plinking' SA80).

Im waiting for the weather to get a bit better before my first skirmish and my only other experience is a days paintballing with work, laser quest and being in the air cadets. Cant understand all the snobbery to be honest. surely, if a newbie turns up and acts like a d!ck then they get shot to hell. If they dont then cut them some slack

Still, should be a good laugh when I go

 

[Fumps]

Yeh I was going to wait till the new year but I'm an all weather outdoors kind of guy.

I mountain bike all year round & the dogs need walking twice a day no matter what the temperature.....I just hope I dont damage my ears I'm a bass player so would be buggered if I damage my hearing.

Maybe a Mich helmet with ear plugs should sort this.....no that means I wont be able to tell who is shooting at me....life is too complicated lol

 

[Ian_Gere]

Sordin or Comtac replica headset by Z-Tactical for hearing protection and still be able to hear what you need. Can't vouch for them myself as I've yet to take the plunge, but at £60-ish they beat the pants off the real deal at £200-odd.

James, you have/had both right?

Also: Goretex is your friend and the issue Remploy DPM kecks are always coming up on fleabay, approx £15 but sometimes cheaper. You don't need the jacket as running around will keep you warm enough, but soggy kecks always puts a downer on the situation. Best to add belt loops to them IMO - see the current DIY thread for pic.

 

[Fumps]

Cheers mate will look into them

I have pretty much got a full loadout now, I often go to my local suplus store the last time I went I just had the excuse to buy the stuff i've always wanted to buy lol

 

[Lozart]

Yeh I was going to wait till the new year but I'm an all weather outdoors kind of guy.

I mountain bike all year round & the dogs need walking twice a day no matter what the temperature.....I just hope I dont damage my ears I'm a bass player so would be buggered if I damage my hearing.

Maybe a Mich helmet with ear plugs should sort this.....no that means I wont be able to tell who is shooting at me....life is too complicated lol

How about a pair of these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Impact-Sport-Electronic-Earmuff-Folding/dp/B001T7QJ9O/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=ZDKWC1MT561G&coliid=I1MVRFRHGMLWQJ they'll cut out the big bangs but you'll still hear speech as if you weren't wearing earmuffs!

 

[Mack]

For that price you would be better getting the comtacs/sordins as at least then you can hook it up to a radio for comms

http://www.greenbase.hk/list.asp?id=3269

mine worked out about £50 all in

 

[Ian_Gere]

@Loz: yeah Sordins/Comtac I/II do the same but with added radio comms.

@Fumps: I'll got a complete MK IV NBC suit, overboots, respirator, gloves, decon-kit, the works lol! Why? Because I wanted one and airsoft is a good excuse

 

[jcheeseright]

Sordin or Comtac replica headset by Z-Tactical for hearing protection and still be able to hear what you need. Can't vouch for them myself as I've yet to take the plunge, but at £60-ish they beat the pants off the real deal at £200-odd.

James, you have/had both right?

as hearing protection I can't recommend the z-tactical sordins, dunno about their comtac replicas but the sordin model is just a moulded PVC earpiece shape with a (really quite uncomfortble) pad round the edge and a couple of circuit boards inside. They do certainly dull your hearing when you wear them but since there's no actual insulation I'd say they're a no go for anything other than looks. That and the sound reproduction from the in built microphones isn't very good.

Saying that though, for real shooting I don't wear real sordins either (who needs comms on a range?), I tend to wear yellow foam ear plugs and a set of these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peltor-H64FB-Shotgunner-Ear-Defenders-BNIB-Army-Issue-/350928524757?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Hunting_ShootingSports_ET&hash=item51b4f855d5

If you're looking to really protect your hearing that is absolutely the way forward. Unfortunately it does make you quite deaf which will effect your situational awareness while playing.

 

[jcheeseright]

How about a pair of these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Impact-Sport-Electronic-Earmuff-Folding/dp/B001T7QJ9O/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=ZDKWC1MT561G&coliid=I1MVRFRHGMLWQJ they'll cut out the big bangs but you'll still hear speech as if you weren't wearing earmuffs!

For the price those are a pretty good deal based on the reviews, I can't stress enough that china clones don't actually provide any tangible protection!

 

[Ian_Gere]

Oh well, it was a nice idea while it lasted :lol:

What do you reckon to the sound attenuation of the Comtacs, Mack?

As a sound engineer I can swear to the sound absorbing properties of Rockwool loft insulation, so a bodge is possible, but you'd want to make sure that it was well sealed because the 2nd to last place you'd want that stuff is in your ears! But if the sound reproduction isn't worth the effort, fuck it...

 

[Fumps]

Well this thread is well & truly derailed

So about my ears:

I was thinking to stop any impact would be to use a MICH helmet (Flared sides), THen use these http://www.amazon.co.uk/Elacin-ER20S-musicians-hearing-protection/dp/B0034ZI9AQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1384873778&sr=8-7&keywords=ear+protection

That I use when I do gigs (Used to be in a thrash metal band) but not sure if they would hold their own if i cop a pyro in the lug.

then cover my ears in either a Buff or use a balaclava.....does this make any sense ?

@Ian Gere. yes mate, I use Johnson's of Leeds to get all my camping & festival set up from them, now I can buy camo legitimately (the best purchase was of a Army Issue Poncho for Glastonbury, It hammered it down & I didn't feel a thing, I could still drink & smoke under there, at one point my mrs got under it with me lol)

 

[Mike636]

I used these on the range, one side has a hollow part so you still hear speech but it muffles gunfire rather well.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=161119213075

 

[Fumps]

Hi Mike

cheers for this, they look a bit like the one's that I have, so may try these first.

cheers guys for all your help & advice. I really appreciate this

 

[Mike636]

They do work really well even when next to really loud things like miniguns and LMGs

In action

2nd from right

 

[Fumps]

Noice

You sound like you have too much fun there

 

[Mack]

Oh well, it was a nice idea while it lasted :lol:

What do you reckon to the sound attenuation of the Comtacs, Mack?

As a sound engineer I can swear to the sound absorbing properties of Rockwool loft insulation, so a bodge is possible, but you'd want to make sure that it was well sealed because the 2nd to last place you'd want that stuff is in your ears! But if the sound reproduction isn't worth the effort, f*ck it...

Well as said they do dull your hearing, but not to the level a set of workshop ear defenders would. For airsoft use there fine for what they are but I certainly wouldnt use them on a RS range. You could easily bodge some sort of insulation to make them more sound proof.