Yet another 'newbie' question thread re Suppliers/resellers

you should of got a bit of paper from chrono test.....

6 to 10 shots fired - hopefully 330 - 345ish rather than 370-ish ??

(hopefully they remembered to downgrade spring for ya)

Kiss ya wallet goodbye - oooh that's cheap.....

(story of our lives.......)

 
Sitting Duck said:
you should of got a bit of paper from chrono test.....

6 to 10 shots fired - hopefully 330 - 345ish rather than 370-ish ??

(hopefully they remembered to downgrade spring for ya)

Kiss ya wallet goodbye - oooh that's cheap.....

(story of our lives.......)
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I did indeed but I'd asked for it to be taken down to 320 for my particular site. All done for them...and another spring in the box? But no allen key (not a biggy as I have loads).

Not sure how long to charge the battery for so left it a couple of hours and had a quick go in the garden....very happy :) Now I need to get a lipo battery.

I've measured the Ni one and its 35mm by 108mm (as good as) so found this one--> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__17296__Turnigy_nano_tech_1800mah_3S_25_50C_Lipo_AIRSOFT_Pack.html

That is the right one isn't it?

 
MrPondlife said:
I've measured the Ni one and its 35mm by 108mm (as good as) so found this one--> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__17296__Turnigy_nano_tech_1800mah_3S_25_50C_Lipo_AIRSOFT_Pack.html

That is the right one isn't it?
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NOOOOoooo....... that's an 11.1V one (the 3S means 3 cells in series so the voltage is higher).

You want this one: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__17291__Turnigy_nano_tech_1800mah_2S_20_40C_Lipo_AIRSOFT_Pack.html

 
IGNORE MOST OF THIS BIT AS LIPO's NEED ADAPTERS OR CONNECTORS CHANGING

yup that will do ya proud but get from EU as it will ship quicker and no duty to risk paying.....

Alternatively though.....

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=26714

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=31977

adapters:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__26048__Female_Mini_Tamiya_gt_Male_XT60_3pcs_bag_UK_Warehouse_.html

PLEASE NOTE - the adapters may have the polarity ar$e about face....

large Tamiya's for RC & airsoft seem same but for some reason often small tamiya adapters come with polarity back to front for airsoft

No biggie - just check wires n stuff, use a pin/needle and pop the pins loose in adapter end

swap over & click back in place - easy peasy

Only need to bother with 1 adapter - leave in gun and plop in xt60 lipo as n when needed

Eventually - look into re-doing the connectors to deans or T connectors if you got a soldering iron maybe

but zippy compacts are bloody good buys - I have a number of them 25c's as well as some others

ATM if you open both batteries up in a new tab/window......

after a while you should get a box pop up just once with a slight discounted one time offer:

turnigy seems to be £6:59

Vs

Zippy compact offer £6:87

My advice if you can run to it is get 3 or 4 of them whilst you are at it - well 2 min but often I go overboard - oops

and some adapters - BUT DOUBLE CHECK/RE-DO POLARITY ON ADAPTERS PERHAPS

Note you will only get 1 item only discounted and get them from same place UK Warehouse

(UK don't do Airsoft stuff so best buy "Airsoft" stuff from EU instead of HK INTERNATIONAL)

Look around maybe for a basic B3 type of charger whilst you are there perhaps

or go for a bells/whistles B6 type of charger if you want maybe

but tbh a simple straight forward 240v B3 basic charger will be fine to get started with for now

 
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Actually if you want less messing about just get a few from EU like Lozart said:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=44690

£5:54 it eventually comes up with if ya wait around - no adapters needed but 1800 vs 2200

(not much in it and reckon less messing about to get ya going)

look for a B3 charger - add lipo's at £5:54 first

yup that is gonna be a nice easy cheapy deal I reckon

EU shipping seems to have nigh on no weight limit or bandings like UK or HK

faster shipment than HK and I guess a bit easier all round if it has small tamiya already fitted for ya

 
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Alas this B3 type ac charger is out of stock in Europe:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=77525

or on fleabay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Imax-RC-B3AC-2S-3S-LiPo-RC-Battery-Balance-Charger-with-Uk-Plug-UK-STOCK-/161794113290?hash=item25abae3f0a


Now for tight ar$e gits like moi you could scrape by with this:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=41730

But you will need a 1a 12v psu, an old modem/adsl/router psu like a belkin/netgear may do the trick
It will take a while to trickle charge but could get you by at a scrape


Most higher end chargers like B6 types use a higher amp psu so they can charge faster at higher rates 2a 3a etc... than around 800mah of the cheapo basic chargers


possible options to buy from EU hobbyking with batteries:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=41730
(but needs an old modem/router psu that you might have knocking about)

or a basic one with a bit more oomph in it:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=73951


simple 240v charger

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=73946
(240v basic charger)



GENUINE B6 MOFO CHARGER - gen chargers are already calibrated

(I got some clone B6's but will need to look into calibrating them before using - gen B6's are ready to use out of box)

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=31467

needs a 5a 11v to 18v psu
(at a push a pc laptop psu say 16v 4.5a could get by)
((http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-IBM-Lenovo-Thinkpad-08K8203-72W-16V-4-5A-Power-AC-Adapter-Laptop-Charger-/400423702601?hash=item5d3b1cd049 - might do but don't quote me that the power plug is exactly correct but think it might be 2.5mm x 5.5mm in B6 charger))

Genuine B6 charger is couple of quid cheaper at UK site but if buying the airsoft batteries from EU may as well get some sort of charger from EU too as shipping will be zilch on top of battery shipment

Well you got some options to consider - according to what's left in ya wallet

 
and i still have all this to come!

thank god its posted now....of course i'll still be confused come the time!

Is this a general thing or does it really change on person to person, as in could we have a simple battery guide topic for new starters?....or have i missed it?

 
You can buy a stfu lot of high end gun(s), top price batteries, charger along with stfu loadout n stuff

Nothing wrong with that - people can spend as much or as little as they deem fit or can afford

Usually though most go for a more modest but half decent first investment

I keep comparing it all to ya first car - yes you can get a new/recent BMW if you wish but most go for the bashed up Ford

(TriggerHappy will no doubt make some "bashed up G&G/Ford's of airsoft" joke no doubt)

batteries - usually many settle for 7.4v lipo's about a min 20c but if possible go for 25c burst rating

35c is optional but all of this depends on what is available to fit in ya gun

11.1v lipo's usually are a bit too much to use on stock guns and trigger contacts can arc out/ burn up with carbon deposits much quicker

there is 9.9v LiFe batteries which offer a middle or stop gap boost without going nutz on 11.1v

however the range of LiFe batteries is very limited and tbh I don't think they are that good on tweaked guns

stock guns you get a bit more zest than a 7.4v - tweaked guns though a 9.9v LiFe seems very very little difference

(they don't seem to have the raw grunt lipo's can offer for response when running a more powerful neodym motor etc...)

Chargers - well at a push almost anything will do as they are smart chargers that should stop charging when done

Easiest model is a B3 type as it plugs straight into mains wall socket - so no psu unit required

But I have used the really cheapo few quid ones with a router psu trickling away for a while now....

The above cheapo basic chargers do the job at a push but no other options

slow charge - can't monitor each cell's voltage or adjust charging rate and cut off point

B6 type - watch out for clones btw, these B6 have numerous features and programme modes

adjustable cut off voltage/charge rate etc......

They usually need a decent psu but there is a mains version - just has a transformer psu unit above the charger circuit

Me personally would suggest either a basic B3 type to get going or a B6 + psu if you can afford it

Batteries - lipo if buying new & forget the old school nimah type

The gun you buy will dictate what options/price you face

Buying batteries from Airsoft shops will very likely mean paying more than going to a RC shop

But often the bespoke "airsoft" lipo's will cost more than the block type batteries used in most RC stuff

If buying a gun with a more bespoke thin stick or nunchuck type of battery then range/capacity/price will leave you with fewer choices

HobbyKing either UK or EU warehouse is best/quickest delivery option with less delay and no possible import duty to pay

They sell both clone B6 or genuine B6 chargers - youtube vids show you how to tell the difference

Many have bought what they thought was genuine ones from fleabay/amazon only to find out they are snide copies

(copies are not that bad but for a little bit more get a genuine B6 from a reputable seller)

Avoid the "B" grade lipo's too on HobbyKing HK International I have been told as they are just the reject crap batteries

Like most stuff - you can get by on a budget but don't scrimp too much or you will end up with real crap

(eg: JBBG plinkers, crap defective bb's that jam, dodgy eyepro that does jack to protect your eyes etc..)

 
Sitting Duck said:
Usually though most go for a more modest but half decent first investment

I keep comparing it all to ya first car - yes you can get a new/recent BMW if you wish but most go for the bashed up Ford

(TriggerHappy will no doubt make some "bashed up G&G/Ford's of airsoft" joke no doubt)
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Thats a bit out of order Ford's are quite reliable.
 
Hillman Avenger - the cheapo "lidl" copy - not much changes with me

as per usual & totally off topic from moi a quick boring story......

Local Car Spares shop near me - had a smug bastid "answer for everything" git serving at counter......

I walk in on a Sunday morning to get some brakes etc.....

"A set of front disc pads for a Hillman Avenger please....."

"Ahhhhhh - Hillman Avenger, I used to have one of those sir......."

Just as I'm about to strike up a conversation with him about they ain't bad etc.....

he then continues with the line:

"But I soon got rid of that pile of rust - and got myself a proper car" (smug cheesey grin)

He had all the answers to all the cars

"Petrol cap for a Skoda ? - yeah that sounds like a fair swap sir"

so pointless trying to argue with the tosser plus he was a lot bigger than me

Ahh many moons ago - when cars had points (pups maybe need to google that)

 
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Well I think I've ordered the right stuff (did it all last night before reading your detailed posts so hope its the right stuff :) )

Ordered this charger - http://www.radioc.co.uk/SearchResults.asp?Search=Imax+RC+B3AC+2-3S+LiPo+RC+Battery+Balance+Charger&Submit=

And bought 2 of these batteries from their euro warehouse - https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=44690

Odd thing is they are coming from Holland so had to pay $14 shipping and received an email stating they may take 45 days! :blink:

Going to have a chat with their customer service just to check that....

 
45 days - Is David Walliams going to swim there and pick them up for you?

 
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Sitting Duck said:
Hillman Avenger - the cheapo "lidl" copy - not much changes with me

as per usual & totally off topic from moi a quick boring story......

Local Car Spares shop near me - had a smug bastid "answer for everything" git serving at counter......

I walk in on a Sunday morning to get some brakes etc.....

"A set of front disc pads for a Hillman Avenger please....."

"Ahhhhhh - Hillman Avenger, I used to have one of those sir......."

Just as I'm about to strike up a conversation with him about they ain't bad etc.....

he then continues with the line:

"But I soon got rid of that pile of rust - and got myself a proper car" (smug cheesey grin)

He had all the answers to all the cars

"Petrol cap for a Skoda ? - yeah that sounds like a fair swap sir"

so pointless trying to argue with the tosser plus he was a lot bigger than me

Ahh many moons ago - when cars had points (pups maybe need to google that)
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My parents used to have a Hillman Avenger. And a Chrysler Avenger. And the Talbot one that replaced it.

Gluttons for punishment they were.

 
F*CK ME - they are supposed to be in stock ffs

you should get them in a week ffs

Alas UK HobbyKing don't stock "airsoft" stuff :(

£9:23 delivery + paypal fees (bloody hate getting nobbled for fees)

But weird thing is the postage from EU stays the same no matter how nutz you go

I added more n more stuff to cart and the weight was getting up to 4kg but still same

Yeah best not proceed me thought - they are cheap but Mrs Duck may wire these vast haul of lipo's to my bollox

(so I cleared my cart as I like my balls unfried and attached)

charger is fine - saw that on fleabay for about £11:50 shipped from a UK seller

If push comes to shove and they are dragging heals on shipping

lmk and I'll send/loan ya one or two if it comes to it

Can't be 45 days ffs - jeez

otherwise people would be best ordering up a lipo when you first start going for ukara or stuff like that

 
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Mind you they were determined - they replaced the last Avenger with a Talbot Horizon. And two more after that.

Then came the Peugeots.

My parents don't have a great history with cars....

 
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