Which Pistol?
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No, you reacted with a ‘careful now’ as well, be honest.
There was nothing hostile in my intent, if you have interpreted it that way, I can only imagine it says something about your internal narrative, not about me.
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You've said you want "the best".
However that means different things to different people, so you'll get all sorts of different replies.
What are you going to use it for?
What's important to you about a pistol and why?
Imho:
Best sidearm for woodland kills:
TM MK23
Best all round sidearm for cqb/woodland:
TM HK45
Best sidearm for realism:
ASG CZSP01 Shadow
Best sidearm for ROF:
AW split slide hicapa
So as you can see- different answers to the same question, from the same person, depending on the parameters.
I have an arsehole for every occasion ?
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@sonofsammo is right on, to elaborate;
For OOTB performance & reliability;
ASG Shadow - Japs use this for pistol comps out the box, I have one and easily the best trigger, very accurate, non tiliting barrel.
Full metal and feels amazing to drive IMO.
Downsides are holsters tricky and the finish wears easily - I'm just going to cerakote mine when I feel like it.
£110 ish ?
TM FNX - best modern gun, e.g. easily as good or better than the famed Hi-Capa, great if you have XXL hands. Downside (for some) is its size, holster availability, plastic slide aesthetically.
£140 ish
TM HK45 - best tactical loadout gun, great shooting, reliable, easy holsters, relatively light, suppressor easy (made to take it). Only downside is plastic slide aesthetically.
£140 ish if in stock!!
TM MK23 - Basically a pistol sniper, great gas efficiency, extreme accuracy, silent.
Downsides are size, most shockingly mush trigger if you're coming from blowbacks.
Best for fieldwork really.
You should be able to squeeze 1-2 mags and a cheaper or used hi quality holster in with those.
Why no Hi-Capa? Great gun but it's quite old school internally and needs some upgrading to get the best out of it, parts compatibility can be a mare - i.e. If you don't know what your dong you could easily de-tune it lol!
Dont get me wrong - great gun.
@rocketdogbert stop causing trouble ?
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Glad to see someone else say this. I was a Capa user for years and I find my USP compact and hk45 tac way more efficient and effective in the extreme cold.
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Davegolf
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@heroshark yeh the Hi-Capas can be incredible, but you'll easily dump a couple hundred to get there. The newer TM stuff is dialled OOTB these days.
Horses for courses I suppose, when the Hi-Capa was realeased compared to all others GBBs it was the don, but everything has moved on tech and tolerance wise.
That and the G series falls into the same category; old - can be great - most upgrade parts available.
But new guns don't need all that tinkering so much.
Horses for courses I suppose, when the Hi-Capa was realeased compared to all others GBBs it was the don, but everything has moved on tech and tolerance wise.
That and the G series falls into the same category; old - can be great - most upgrade parts available.
But new guns don't need all that tinkering so much.
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The MEU is my one of the best looking pistols you can get IMO, especially without the under rail - trade off ofc is that you cant really attach anything.
I've had two of the WE MEUs (first one go stolen ?), and have been fairly happy with them, i found in colder weather green gas can have some trouble running the heavy metal slide - I recommend using it with guarder power up for cold weather.
Couple times a year you may wish to strip down the slide and check the oil on the piston head seal otherwise you may start to run into slide malfunctions (this happened to both of mine after a while). I Installed a crazy jet barrel and maple leaf rubber, and have it shooting a couple inch group at CQB distances: 10-15 metres.
It is the heaviest pistol I own though - not certain of the spec but feels to me like its almost a kilo - perhaps an important consideration if you are already slugging around a hefty primary and rig.
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Zarrin
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So i've had possibly 4 USP Compacts, first one was actually my first ever pistol.. I think it was a pre System7 KSC back in the mid 2000s and i bought it solely because it was Jack Bauer's carry gun in 24 from Season 3 onwards, but it wasn't very good.. poor gas efficiency, power and accuracy.
I also had the Umarex with the threaded barrel and the raised sites for use with a suppressor.. it just looked a bit derpy though, never skirmished with it and can't really remember if it was any good.
I quite like the KWA i have now though; accuracy and gas efficiency seem good, I would like to put a crazy jet and ML rubber in but am not exactly sure about compatibility at the moment. One thing is the Action feels a bit gritty when firing; actually the paint finish seems really poor and thickly layered on, so at some point I intend to de-surface and polish the slides grooves; I imagine once this is done it should perform fantastically; especially if I can settle on the correct barrel and rubber.
One more thing about the USP compacts is that they do eventually seem to suffer from the notorious break in the trigger; I recently got hold of a bag of replacements, I think I have three lowers which I would like to get working again when I have the time!
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I've been quite impressed with the WE M&P I bought late last year. The pistol itself cost £90, extra mags were about £20 each.
It feels great in the hand, extremely comfortable and comes with different size backstraps for the grip so you can adjust it to better fit your hands - I have quite small hands so the smallest backstrap suits me best. The slide action is smooth and it has decent recoil; gas efficiency seems about average (can get about a couple of magazines worth of shots out of one fill depending on ambient temperature etc).
Accuracy OOTB was ok, but can be improved with some tape as described in this video. I've since also upgraded it with some barrel + hop upgrades, but these aren't really necessary as far as skirmishing is concerned (I just like upgrading/fine-tuning my gear).
It also has glow in the dark sights, but they're just a gimmick & the glow doesn't last long enough to be useful; I ended up pulling the GITD paint out of the indents and repainting them with some white paint.
It feels great in the hand, extremely comfortable and comes with different size backstraps for the grip so you can adjust it to better fit your hands - I have quite small hands so the smallest backstrap suits me best. The slide action is smooth and it has decent recoil; gas efficiency seems about average (can get about a couple of magazines worth of shots out of one fill depending on ambient temperature etc).
Accuracy OOTB was ok, but can be improved with some tape as described in this video. I've since also upgraded it with some barrel + hop upgrades, but these aren't really necessary as far as skirmishing is concerned (I just like upgrading/fine-tuning my gear).
It also has glow in the dark sights, but they're just a gimmick & the glow doesn't last long enough to be useful; I ended up pulling the GITD paint out of the indents and repainting them with some white paint.
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problem with threads like these is the OP will ask the question, get loads of suggestions and then go buy something completely different.
But sine we are in lockdown and I have time to spare here's a few suggestions.
Tm Desert Eage, stupidly big and heavy and finding a holster isn't fun but what a great pistol to use.
WE Makarov - I really don't like WE pistols. the hype they get is misplaced in my opinion (i've owned a few and they are all crap) apart from the Makarov and on the plus side it's metal
TM Detonics - Silly little pistol with great blowback
VFC/Hogwarts G42 - Ever smaller little pistol and feels like a water pistol when you use it but runs like a train.
TM HK45 - reasons already mentioned in this thread
TM Glock 19 - out the box does what it says on the tin.
TM Hicapa - runs great out the box but within 5 minutes of owning one you will be wanting to add alloys, LED lights and go faster stripes as it's the boy racer car of the airsoft world (hands up who owns a stock Hicapa?)
If you want something completely different then have a look at the Action Army Ruger Mk4 pistol. No one knows if it's good or bad, if it's gas efficient or if it will fall to bits in 5 minutes but it looks cool which is a big part of being into airsoft.
But sine we are in lockdown and I have time to spare here's a few suggestions.
Tm Desert Eage, stupidly big and heavy and finding a holster isn't fun but what a great pistol to use.
WE Makarov - I really don't like WE pistols. the hype they get is misplaced in my opinion (i've owned a few and they are all crap) apart from the Makarov and on the plus side it's metal
TM Detonics - Silly little pistol with great blowback
VFC/Hogwarts G42 - Ever smaller little pistol and feels like a water pistol when you use it but runs like a train.
TM HK45 - reasons already mentioned in this thread
TM Glock 19 - out the box does what it says on the tin.
TM Hicapa - runs great out the box but within 5 minutes of owning one you will be wanting to add alloys, LED lights and go faster stripes as it's the boy racer car of the airsoft world (hands up who owns a stock Hicapa?)
If you want something completely different then have a look at the Action Army Ruger Mk4 pistol. No one knows if it's good or bad, if it's gas efficient or if it will fall to bits in 5 minutes but it looks cool which is a big part of being into airsoft.
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I think I’m pulled more towards the TM P226 - just because I think it looks sexy but again I want metal and there’s nothing that can change that - is the SSP1 really that much of a bad option or are people just hating on it for what it is? A branded KJW
metal, green gas, 200£ budget with holster and mags all in - that’s what I’m after but as someone said previously what a community. I’ve read most of the responses and I’m honestly grateful for everyone’s input and I wouldn’t ask if I really wasn’t stuck!
metal, green gas, 200£ budget with holster and mags all in - that’s what I’m after but as someone said previously what a community. I’ve read most of the responses and I’m honestly grateful for everyone’s input and I wouldn’t ask if I really wasn’t stuck!
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Zarrin
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As far as I'm aware the KSC and KWA have the same lower mechanisms, and they are horribly over complicated compared to other similar designs out there.
The KJWs guns generally TM clones and pretty good ones I think one off their 1911s is a western arms clone. but they are base on designs that are meant to be lightish plastic. they will not as reliable or as efficient as TM but they will be perfectly usable.
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