What's a Good Sidearm?

[Adolf Hamster]

I'm not trying to be a stickler, I get you all probably get the same questions over and over. I'm new to all this after doing only a few skirmish's, I'm not trying to annoy anyone here.

I'm sorry I asked

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it's a very common question with a relatively straightforward answer and whilst we completely get why you're curious and want to know more, from our end it can be a tad repetitive.

there are plenty of cases where folks haven't taken on board advice, went and bought whatever they felt like (as is perfectly within their rights) but then felt disappointed when it doesn't match up to their expectations.

tm is by no means the be all and end all of pistols, but they are the go-to recommendation because it's not only a well known standard of performance (at least in the empirical sense of being good at lobbing plastic spheres where you want them to when you want them to), but a pretty good standard at that.

like i said earlier there's nothing wrong in choosing another brand for whatever reason is important to you, as long as you're doing so informed of the potential issues you might be inviting.

 

[Win Dage]

You guys are supposed to have all the knowledge!!The lads only trying to find enough confidence and conviction to let go of his hard earnt money.Ive seen a lot of this on here and I gotta tell you that you,re a bunch of rude cunts,yeah,admin you can delete my account,no skin off my back,take you heads out of each others arseholes,cliquey cunts.

 

[Impulse]

A guy I skirmish with loves the more Eastern style of weapon (primarily Russian), so he doesn't go for any TM pistols because TM typically does more "western" style of pistol.

Does he wish they performed like a TM? Sure.

Would they ever consider getting a TM? No, because they love the aesthetics of their Russian kit and want a Tokarev or Makarov to go with their loadouts.

I'll always vouch for TM pistols, because I have three and they're all absolutely fantastic in how they perform. Never let me down and do the job I need them to do, which is point blank to about 40m, to a high degree of accuracy and reliability. However, if you want a pistol that TM don't do, it's not the end of the world. I'm considering a WE Browning Hi-Power, because I think it's a great firearm and TM don't do one.

At the end of the day, unless you're planning on sniping, you probably won't use your sidearm that much anyway, so go with what you like the design of over "this is the best pistol". It's why I don't have a hi-capa and don't use my mk23 as a sidearm; sure they're theoretically better than my 1911 and p226, but they're not a 1911 or p226 (and hell, I am a sniper, so I do use my pistol all the damn time )

 

[Stratton Oakmont]

I'm not trying to be a stickler, I get you all probably get the same questions over and over. I'm new to all this after doing only a few skirmish's, I'm not trying to annoy anyone here.

I'm sorry I asked

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Don't be sorry

ask away and don't be offended if people give you a bit of stick, I was of the understanding that that's how people generally get on. If you are particularly thin skinned then I suggest you use the search button  first to save your embarrassment,

I'm not cliquey I don't like anyone.

as for wind age come back and join in, don't risk falling of that high horse and bruising your ego

 

[Stratton Oakmont]

You may have gathered by now that most comments on here are not to be taken seriously, especially mine.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

A guy I skirmish with loves the more Eastern style of weapon (primarily Russian), so he doesn't go for any TM pistols because TM typically does more "western" style of pistol.

Does he wish they performed like a TM? Sure.

Would they ever consider getting a TM? No, because they love the aesthetics of their Russian kit and want a Tokarev or Makarov to go with their loadouts.

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this is the same point i'm trying to make. it's why i run the WE makarov and absolutely love it. i just won't lie and say it doesn't vent gas after 4 shots in  winter or that the hop didn't need tweaking to lift .3's.

of course i'd love tm to make a makarov, and i'd buy it, although i'd still run the WE in the warmer weather because i preferr the feel of a metal gun.

bought a We ct25 purely as a joke gun, turns out the joke was it's actually really good.

however if what i wanted was a glock/1911 for all round general use, i'd buy a tm, as evidenced by the fact that i did get a hicapa, and when the mood strikes me to run pistol only that's the gun i'll run.

 

[Tackle]

You guys are supposed to have all the knowledge!!The lads only trying to find enough confidence and conviction to let go of his hard earnt money.Ive seen a lot of this on here and I gotta tell you that you,re a bunch of rude cunts,yeah,admin you can delete my account,no skin off my back,take you heads out of each others arseholes,cliquey cunts.

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TWAT

(Prob bought a WE Hi-Capa & blames everyone else for his monumental fuck up?)

 

[Stratton Oakmont]

Back to business 

I own 5 gbb pistols and one mk23

they are all Tm or a version of

i have full Airsoft masterpiece hicapa, built from parts as they came on sale.

a warmed over Tm/Airsoft masterpiece hybrid

a stock Tm gold match

none are used for skirmishing but are my competition pistols and I will generally use one of the modified    Pistols with the Tm as a backup.

i built the Airsoft masterpiece from scratch to provide me with the knowledge and confidence to strip and maintain and more importantly replace broken parts that could happen at any time regardless of servicing (because they only break when you really need them). But is it better than a stock Tm gold match? Truthfully only in my mind, but that's the only way it needs to be to make me happy and offset that I wasted a small fortune building what I wanted.

the gold match doesn't feel anything like my other 2 to shoot as the weight distribution is different and I generally use my hybrid the most. That doesn't mean they perform any better but I believe that I do with them.

the g34 is for when I want to undo all my training/ muscle memory with a hicapa (yes I'm that stupid/easily bored) and i shouldn't do it. But hey ho I do it anyway.

glocks are much more tempermental and sensitive generally to aftermarket modifications. That doesn't mean they can't be made to be good but I can't be bothered to waste my time on an inferior system for competition shooting.

that said I skirmish with a Tm g17 because  they are the easiest to use, lack anything to snag on kit,and the trigger whilst being suboptimal for competition contains the safety so requires zero thought when grabbing it quickly and trying to engage a target that is trying to shoot back and being a Tm it works 

If you don't know what you want a tm g17 cannot be beaten, they are as common as muck boring to look at stock and the trigger feels like a trampoline but just like the real thing there is nothing better.

 

[LiamT]

Don't be sorry

ask away and don't be offended if people give you a bit of stick, I was of the understanding that that's how people generally get on. If you are particularly thin skinned then I suggest you use the search button  first to save your embarrassment,

I'm not cliquey I don't like anyone.

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Nah I get that, I'm not thin skinned I just never really had anyone talk to me about stuff so it just came off as though I'd upset someone, no worries anyway I guess I'm off to buy a TM glock then.

 

[Stratton Oakmont]

So now I have given you the benefit of my experience with pistols (I won't  mention the other brands I have used or the two types of CO2 pistols I have used because I think they are inferior to TM and I would not consider another brand for a pistol). Obviously you can think( f*ck that cliquey tool) and repeat the errors myself and others have made before they got to the same conclusion as me.

As I said before that would be more fun and I imagine that would actually go down quite well, then you can join in the jovial piss taking or "cliquey c****ness" depending how you wish to view it

and don't any of you cliquey c**** like this comment you can all f**k off

 

[LiamT]

So now I have given you the benefit of my experience with pistols (I won't  mention the other brands I have used or the two types of CO2 pistols I have used because I think they are inferior to TM and I would not consider another brand for a pistol). Obviously you can think( f*ck that cliquey tool) and repeat the errors myself and others have made before they got to the same conclusion as me.

As I said before that would be more fun and I imagine that would actually go down quite well, then you can join in the jovial piss taking or "cliquey c****ness" depending how you wish to view it

and don't any of you cliquey c**** like this comment you can all f**k off

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Yeah I mean its good to have people with experience, I don't know if TM do different models of glocks but I'll look around but I'm going to get a TM glock, but I mean I don't really like taking the piss not my style but you have a clear way with words thats impeccable.

 

[Stratton Oakmont]

You don't know if Tm do different models of glock?... 

statements like that will draw the attention of some people on this site like you would not believe

 

[Adolf Hamster]

and don't any of you cliquey c**** like this comment you can all f**k off

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you asked for a like and one has been provided. you're welcome

Yeah I mean its good to have people with experience, I don't know if TM do different models of glocks but I'll look around but I'm going to get a TM glock, but I mean I don't really like taking the piss not my style but you have a clear way with words thats impeccable.

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different styles just add to the spice of life, at least you're seeing through the banter. hopefully we've put your mind at ease that you're making a sensible choice.

You don't know if Tm do different models of glock?... 

statements like that will draw the attention of some people on this site like you would not believe

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i know they do a gen 4.....

*some men just want to watch the world burn*

 

[EDcase]

...and after all that I'll throw a spanner in the works and say I still like my WE M9A1, WE M84, KJW KP09 and Valken AVP17 ?

I had a TM P226 for a short time but sold it because I didn't like the plastic feel.  I guess I like feel more than performance ?