What sidearms do people use?

[SgtTalbert]

TM Glock 17
TM P226

 

[emilianoksa]

Personally I’d go for the TM gbbr. The AEP’s are something like 220 FPS, which is fine if you can hose people down with it, but in a semi only environment, I’d question if you could feel it in the heat of the moment. 

There is in my opinion only 2 choices. The Tm gbbr or the new VFC AEG. For the  price of the VFC I could get the TM and a few mags too, and if you can run a pistol only loadout with 25 round mags, you should have no issue running 40 round Tm mags. 

The good thing about the mp7 and probably even more so the p90 is it’s actually a much lover profile than a pistol. To engage with a pistol you have your arms out stretched plus the 6” of pistol. With the mp7 or p90 you’re arms are in, close to your body giving you a more stable shooting experience and lower perceived weight because you’re not holding it out at arms length. You can get in closer to walls or behind other obstacles better too whilst still in the ready position.

I take your point. I've just done a bit of research and the gbbr does look a better gun. Not ridiculously expensive either. 

I also feel more comfortable doing routine maintenance on gbbs than on aegs. I'm happier with mechanical things than electrical ones.

But for somebody like me who keeps falling over, I wonder how long that TM ABS shell would last.?

 

[EDcase]

WE M9A1 (Co2)

KJWorks CZ75 (Co2)

Hopefully soon: (July) WE Browning Hi-Power MK3

 

[mintsauce5]

I use a TM usp full size lately, I’ve also got a tm usp compact , hk45 , m&p 9 , g18c all gbb, also got the tm g18c aep , probably tell I’ve got a fetish for tm pistols !

 

[Rogerborg]

To engage with a pistol you have your arms out stretched plus the 6” of pistol

To brace against the recoil?

You can hold an airsoft pistol right in front of your face, and I often do.  That said, I do actually agree that's the natural position for a PDW style SMG, and they do work very well in that role.

And before anyone calls thread derailment, you can run an MP7 or MP5K as a holstered side-arm.  In a semi auto CQB site, I'd agree that the gas versions are awesome, but as a sniper secondary in woodland, having a fully auto 300fps+ sidearm with a 100 round magazine can be pretty effective.

 

[Wo1f]

@Rogerborg everyone knows Tm gbb pistols kick like a .50AE..

ive only ever tried that once and it felt too unnatural for me that it was easier to get into a position where I could shoot ‘normally’.

i have my mp7 in a TMC holster when I’m running a sniper/DMR. Sits on my PC under my arm out of the way until shit hits the fan. 

 

[FreeFrag.UK]

My go to is my Marui Sig P226 e2 or my Marui HK .45 Tactical.

Beyond that I have an ASG CZ75 but this is only used with my Czech kit.

 

[Badllama]

WE P226 x 2 use the black or the tan one ?

 

[lukeB]

Indoor : stock tm hk45

Outdoor: tm mk23 with the usual mods + heavy bbs 

 

[heroshark]

Woodland I pair my rifle with 400fps designated marksman MK23 .I wouldn't call it a sidearm as it gets equal use. CQB I very rarely carry a rifle just lots of pistols. Once again non of which are prevalent so non are sidearms. Main ones are. 2" KWC co2 python converted to have extra gas output because I modded all the shells to fire X6 shot. A mini shotgun if you like. TM USP compact with a few internal tweaks. TM HK45 tactical with a few internal tweaks. And sometimes the MK23 but with a sub 350fps upper I put together if I know I need something with a little more range.  

 

[sonofsammo]

So far, I have:
WE G18C with maple leaf/crazy jet internals - used occasionally, but rarely as I don't like Glocks
ASG MK23 upgraded with hadron tdc, fangplate and crazy jet barrel
TM HK45 Tactical - I use this and the above MK23 with tracers for dual wield CQB fun
ASG CZSP01 (x2) - used as dual wield with tracer for CQB
Armourer Works Hi Capa Split slide w/extended mag for CQB

TM MK23 upgraded with same as ASG - used as side arm for Woodland
ASG CZP09
Krytac Vector pistol - used as side arm for woodland
I think that's it, although I'm probably forgetting something...

 

[AK47frizzle]

Still trying to find "the one".

What I have tried tho:

We g18c - decent but it broke. New slide was great but hurt efficiency

We p99 - complete failure that didnt even hit the field

Kwc makarov - genuinely good pistol. However, mags suck ass. Real ass. Not salvageable at all. Might design 3d metal ones or even my own makarov.

Tm hk45 - works great. But... I just cant bring myself to use green gas.

Got a sai blu on the way with co2 mags and some mods. Hopefully that will be the end.

 

[heroshark]

Tm hk45 - works great. But... I just cant bring myself to use green gas.

Got a sai blu on the way with co2 mags and some mods. Hopefully that will be the end.

I've not yet come across a co2 mag with the longevity and ease of maintenance (often un-salvageable) as the majority of standard gas mags. If your dislike of green is about carrying gas on you I find the 100ml tins of gunfire smart gas very good. You can fit 2 in an m4 pouch. You can also refill them once empty, or even use empty lighter gas tin if you find the small ones. You will find they break now and again but they are cheap to replace. All you need is a 2-3cm approx tube that fits the diameter up to the shoulder on the filling nozzle. You pop the empty can in the freezer for 20min or so and fill nozzle to nozzle. Your best using a good full can to fill from to get the best result for a good fill. This is why things like the ai gas can and the grenade gas storage cans never took off because people were trying to fill them up in the field and sometimes from half full cans. If you treat them the same they work much better

 

[Adolf Hamster]

the solution to green gas is just carry more mags

 

[heroshark]

the solution to green gas is just carry more mags

Also a very valid answer .The hk45 can happily squeeze around a couple of bb fills worth to one gas fill too.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Also a very valid answer .The hk45 can happily squeeze around a couple of bb fills worth to one gas fill too.

i normally carry at least 2 mags and it's rare i'd go through all of that in a fight. normally that only happens when i've managed to empty my primary (which seeing as that's 6 midcaps and a full odin it's quite the acheivement)

 

[Musica]

i normally carry at least 2 mags and it's rare i'd go through all of that in a fight. normally that only happens when i've managed to empty my primary (which seeing as that's 6 midcaps and a full odin it's quite the acheivement)

Yea I find those guys in high vis vests don't like to take their hits end up using a whole magazine before they go back to respawn. ?

 

[doa88]

I've recently bought a second hand BLE XAE. Happy with it so far shooting targets in my back garden, going to skirmish it for the first time this weekend & see how it goes.   

long term goal is a TM Hicappa5.1 when i get the budget. Also considering getting an AEP just to carry in the proper winter months as the last thing i want is to pull my pistol in a tight spot and spray gas everywhere instead of BBs. 

 

[djben9]

TM G17....... still justifying the MK23! 

 

[_stylian_]

TM G18c AEP - worked like a charm, though a bit underpowered and with an annoying spring/motor whine. Motor and batteries finally died on it, so getting it converted to lipos currently. Reliable and great outdoor sidearm if you're running an RIF with a MED