WE Vs TM Hicapas

[Wo1f]

Does the quality change between the model from either of the two manufacturer’s?

is everything from WE substandard, except for their G range? ?

It’s all about the combination of design, materials and tolerance. I’ve found WE pistols to be shit. Even the g18c from them couldn’t hit a barn door at 15 meters. I picked up a used TM g18c and it’s not missed a beat all year on propane and it’s FAR more accurate. My friend has an AW glock and that runs well too. 

Yet some of their GBBR’s I’ve found are fantastic like their g36c which is probably the best budget gbbr available. Scar H and mp5 are fantastic too. Yet their scar L is crap despite a near identical design because the mag doesn’t have the gas capacity to cycle the bolt efficiency throughout the mag. That’s why most green gas 1911’s are hopeless unless it’s warm. Nothing wrong with the gun but the mag is too small to hold a sufficient amount of gas. 

 

[Sneaky]

I own a WE Glock G23 and it has performed great in all conditions.  No issues with the magazines.

 

[Guest]

......lots of truth here....

I agree with everything Wo1f says, naturally, as he’s correct

 

[Sneaky]

It’s all about the combination of design, materials and tolerance. I’ve found WE pistols to be shit. Even the g18c from them couldn’t hit a barn door at 15 meters. I picked up a used TM g18c and it’s not missed a beat all year on propane and it’s FAR more accurate. My friend has an AW glock and that runs well too. 

Yet some of their GBBR’s I’ve found are fantastic like their g36c which is probably the best budget gbbr available. Scar H and mp5 are fantastic too. Yet their scar L is crap despite a near identical design because the mag doesn’t have the gas capacity to cycle the bolt efficiency throughout the mag. That’s why most green gas 1911’s are hopeless unless it’s warm. Nothing wrong with the gun but the mag is too small to hold a sufficient amount of gas. 

I do believe the WE G23 addressed many issues with the G18 etc..

 

[Adolf Hamster]

That would have something to do with the fact that WE pistols sell well, because they are cheaper than most of their competitors and they provide lots of different models to choose from. If you want a Makarov, Tokarev, Browning, Beretta Cheetah, P38 etc. WE are your automatic go to.

So there are bound to be more of them on the market.

As Hero Shark says, they are not that bad. If you want a belt hanger for emergency use, they look good and are generally fine for occasional use. Some of the VFC and KWA pistols are also underwhelming in terms of reliability, but they cost considerably more and parts availability can be a problem.

In my opinion, WE are a step up in quality from KWC and not much inferior to KJW. They also make nice collectors' pieces.

Very well said, yes tm's are the gold standard for out of the box performance, but they dont make everything and we covers a wider range of designs.

Some are terrible (luger), some are pretty good (makarov) and whilst a tm is a more sensible option for heavy use for a "hey bro they kinda close" sidearm they're not bad.

As long as you're aware of the limitations- longevity, out of the box accuracy and cold weather performance then its fine.

But when it comes to a competition between the same guns from we/tm then for sure tm hands down if your priorities are functional.

 

[Wo1f]

I do believe the WE G23 addressed many issues with the G18 etc..

You could well be right. I’ve never even seen a WE g23 so I don’t have an opinion. 

Having said that, I’ve made the move to TM pistols so until they step out of line it’s what I’ll stick with. 

 

[Tiercel]

If you can afford to buy a TM, buy a TM. 

If you cant afford to buy a TM, save up until you can buy one.

 

[josh200025]

I had a TM NightWarrior that I sold on here, recently buying a WE G17 WET, I have realised why TM are the superior pistols. It shot like a laser compared to this metal block...

 

[Spartan873]

IMO if you intend to do a bunch of upgrades to it and use it for more than when you get caught-short in the field, get the TM. As everyone has already alluded to, TMs have better quality control and less reliability issues. If it's a once-a-month skirmish jobby, go for the WE. A quick fix with a ML 50 degree rubber (and precision barrel if you can stretch it) and that should be enough for any CQB.

 

[Seagal99]

Late to the party. But WE seem to be the only ones who do a Browning HP, and I find just looking at that gun online before bed guarantees me sweet dreams. Does anyone have the HP? and is it shit? Or could it pass as ok? (I know it’s not going to be TM level, but ok would be enough for me as the browning design is the main thing)