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VSR Or L96
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Hef Legend
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Both are good to be honest, depends which you like the look off.
Plenty of upgrade parts for both.
Plenty of upgrade parts for both.
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Bought both, upgraded both and would go VSR unless you really have a liking of the L96. Easier to get bits for (especially second hand), more knowledge out there on how to get the most out of its hop and overall easier to get it shooting well.
That said, the above two comments are basically right: You can get both shooting very well indeed.
That said, the above two comments are basically right: You can get both shooting very well indeed.
Skippy77
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Just bought a Well MB01 from Taiwanguns. Lots of upgrade options and accessories for the L96, also bought metal trigger assembly from ebay.
There weren't that many options for the VSR, you can get a screw mount for a silencer and change the spring and barrel, but not much more than that. The VSR has a 510mm barrel and the L96 has a 500mm barrel.
Look at Taiwan guns are recommended to me by Hef Legend, can't seem to get off that site, easier to search than gunfire.pl.
I got my L96 with Scope, silencer, silencer adapter, upgrade set & some .36 bio bb's for £134 including delivery. If you get from taiwan guns they can even downgrade for you, just make sure you give your UKARA number in the comments when paying.
I'm leaving the original spring which I think is a SP140 spring. and upgrading the piston and Spring retainer, to keep it site safe.
There weren't that many options for the VSR, you can get a screw mount for a silencer and change the spring and barrel, but not much more than that. The VSR has a 510mm barrel and the L96 has a 500mm barrel.
Look at Taiwan guns are recommended to me by Hef Legend, can't seem to get off that site, easier to search than gunfire.pl.
I got my L96 with Scope, silencer, silencer adapter, upgrade set & some .36 bio bb's for £134 including delivery. If you get from taiwan guns they can even downgrade for you, just make sure you give your UKARA number in the comments when paying.
I'm leaving the original spring which I think is a SP140 spring. and upgrading the piston and Spring retainer, to keep it site safe.
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Sorry man, but lots of what you've said is not true: The VSR is the most upgradable sniper rifle out there - many kits and many manufacturers. Prometheus/LayLax/First Factory/Nineball, PDI, ORGA, EdGI etc. - in fact, the VSR is such a famous platform for its hop that VSR buckings are what are used in many pistols as well because the cut of the barrel has been found to be ideal (almost all Tokyo Marui pistols use VSR hop up buckings). Along side AEG buckings, VSR buckings are the next most common in all of airsoft. Objectively the VSR has the most aftermarket parts available of any springer sniper rifle, but the Maruzen L96 APS-2 clones aren't far behind.
What brand 'metal trigger' did you buy? You realise most of these 'metal' triggers literally just have a metal outer casing but no internal upgrades. One should really only bother with the Airsoft Pro, LayLax or PDI offerings when it comes to the L96 triggers.
A second issue I take with the L96 is its magazine sits slightly further forward (only a few cm, but still) and that's the reason for its overall length being longer, but the inner barrel being shorter with the same overall length. The VSR is far more compact and practical in my opinion.
Avoid buying scopes with sniper rifles as they're usually gash and you want a decent clear one later on. I'd also say to not buy biodegradable BBs unless you shoot a lot (i.e. get through all those BBs in less than 3 months) - they're hygroscopic and will swell very easily. If your site allows non-degradables then pick up BBs that will degrade less and give you a consistent shot and leave less residue in the barrel.
What's the 'spring retainer'? The guide rod/spring guide? More powerful springs also need better sears too.
Again, I think it boils down to functionality. I really liked my L96, but it was pretty big even with the shorter and lighter PDI outer-barrel. Overall the VSR just feels more skirmishable, but both can be made to perform equally well.
What brand 'metal trigger' did you buy? You realise most of these 'metal' triggers literally just have a metal outer casing but no internal upgrades. One should really only bother with the Airsoft Pro, LayLax or PDI offerings when it comes to the L96 triggers.
A second issue I take with the L96 is its magazine sits slightly further forward (only a few cm, but still) and that's the reason for its overall length being longer, but the inner barrel being shorter with the same overall length. The VSR is far more compact and practical in my opinion.
Avoid buying scopes with sniper rifles as they're usually gash and you want a decent clear one later on. I'd also say to not buy biodegradable BBs unless you shoot a lot (i.e. get through all those BBs in less than 3 months) - they're hygroscopic and will swell very easily. If your site allows non-degradables then pick up BBs that will degrade less and give you a consistent shot and leave less residue in the barrel.
What's the 'spring retainer'? The guide rod/spring guide? More powerful springs also need better sears too.
Again, I think it boils down to functionality. I really liked my L96, but it was pretty big even with the shorter and lighter PDI outer-barrel. Overall the VSR just feels more skirmishable, but both can be made to perform equally well.
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clumpyedge
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X fire has all sorts of differing options for the VSR and L96 including barrel lengths and the like...
Dan2493
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Thanks For all the input as I have a l96 that needed new hop up and had a cracked trigger box I decided to buy a new cnc trigger box hop up unit and a new spring piston etc and a metal hop up arm as its cheaper to do this than buy a new gun then buy the upgrades
I was thinking about making some aluminium barrel spacers on the lathe will this work will there be a problem in doing so ?
hope you can help
Dan
I was thinking about making some aluminium barrel spacers on the lathe will this work will there be a problem in doing so ?
hope you can help
Dan
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Samurai
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Will work. Just copy the design.
http://www.max2joules.com/3200-3927-thickbox/pdi-front-bull-barrel-spacer-l96-vsr10.jpg
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Pro Ball from Socom Tactical are good. Gunfire Rockets and BB King are also a couple I've tried and had no issues. Just avoid Nuprol.
As for weight, that's a personal decision really. The lighter the BB the faster it gets to your target but the quicker it'll shed its energy and the less inertia it can hold from the hop - so basically heavier weights go further but get there slower. I'd say start at above .30g (maybe with .36g for instance) then work your way up as high as above .40g if you're not getting the distance you need.
Most heavy weight BBs are now hygroscopic and will adsorb water over time, so keep that in mind. Once you open the bag you're advised to use them within 3 months and keep the bag (and its silica gel packet) sealed up whenever possible. ASG have also released their own heavy weight BBs that don't appear to be hydrophilic so I may pick some up. Not sure if anyone on here has had a chance to test them yet, but other ASG BBs are quite good.
As for weight, that's a personal decision really. The lighter the BB the faster it gets to your target but the quicker it'll shed its energy and the less inertia it can hold from the hop - so basically heavier weights go further but get there slower. I'd say start at above .30g (maybe with .36g for instance) then work your way up as high as above .40g if you're not getting the distance you need.
Most heavy weight BBs are now hygroscopic and will adsorb water over time, so keep that in mind. Once you open the bag you're advised to use them within 3 months and keep the bag (and its silica gel packet) sealed up whenever possible. ASG have also released their own heavy weight BBs that don't appear to be hydrophilic so I may pick some up. Not sure if anyone on here has had a chance to test them yet, but other ASG BBs are quite good.
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Snakeeyes75
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TM VSR GSPEC all the way! Yep, you'll end up replacing most of the internals anyway but 95% of upgrade parts are made to fit the TM! I have 2, the gspec and the pro, gspec is better although the pro is a tad lighter! I use .43 proballs which are the best ammo (At the moment). Upgrade wise, I recommend a Mancraft SDIK kit if you want maximum effect and easy FPS setting. If you want a good springer then go Airsoft pro, they're like the landrover of the upgrade world!
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