THE TM MWS thread

[Yukarin]

Years of frustration with my KC02 had me acquiring a second hand MWS. The enthusiasm spread in this 83 page document is to blame. A fantastic piece - although a tad too heavy mags. 

Some questions I can’t find answers to:

# I can’t put my rifle into safety unless it is cocked and ready - is that normal or a flaw from the trigger installation of the previous owner? If normal - is this also the behavior of the real m4? 

# Does someone have the actual weight of the MTR-magazines? Im getting all sorts of different info on different sites. One states that they are heavier ( 600 g ) than the standard mags ( 450 g ) - I’m trying to find a way to lighten the load. Might try the gen 2 pmags although I have heard mixed opinions about them.

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PMags are still shit last time I heard, balancing out the mags over your kit does wonders. I run 8 magazines, 2 on my battle belt, 3 on the front of my plate carrier and 3 on the back of my plate carrier. Very noticeable difference from when I used to run an Osprey and had all of my 8 magazines on the front of my plate carrier.

 

[Wo1f]

Selector functions like a real AR as mentioned.

Stick to 35 round TM mags as they’re the best performance per weight option. 

Consider your PC/belt setup to better spread the weight across your body. 

 

[EvilMonkee]

Really you think these mags are heavy?  ROFL

Try running 6x steel GHK AK mags.....

 

[Hypokondrikern]

Yeah, that’s why I’d like to know the weight. Because if they are under 300 g ( which I doubt ) it could be worth considering. + I prefer the look of the short mags and isn’t reloading the best part about this rifle. The sounds..

Nevertheless, thanks for the insight regarding the mags placement and the trigger safety. I’ll now get two GHK AK mags and start my own gym ; ) 

 

[Sawyer]

Yeah, that’s why I’d like to know the weight. Because if they are under 300 g ( which I doubt ) it could be worth considering. + I prefer the look of the short mags and isn’t reloading the best part about this rifle. The sounds..

Nevertheless, thanks for the insight regarding the mags placement and the trigger safety. I’ll now get two GHK AK mags and start my own gym ; ) 

If the Wolf Armouries website is to be believed, there looks to be about 50g in it between the two. 450ish vs 500g.

 

[EvilMonkee]

Badabing weighed them on one of his reviews.  The MWS mag is circa 400g v 600g odd for the GHK

Edit - no idea about the 20rds mags.

 

[RossF]

Just FYI I got the Angry Gun MPA nozzle. Awesome piece of kit.

390fps +- 5 w/ .28s

340fps +- 3 w/ .43s

My setup is 373mm prommy .03 barrel w/ modify tan bucking, Dave’s brass nub and spacer. G&P recoil spring and alu buffer @ max weight. Running on Abbey Vertex gas.

Also I tried the Angry Hun high speed buffer weight and holy crap, it added so much recoil. Amazing! The only thing that stopped me buying it there and then was I want to try the heavy recoil kit now given that I’m running this as a DMR so ROF is irrelevant.

@Wo1f I know you’ve tried both the high speed and heavy buffer weights from Angry Gun and said the heavy made the cycle way too slow to recommend. To clarify is that the ROF or do you mean even a complete cycle per one single shot feels sluggish and gross? 

 

[Wo1f]

@Wo1f I know you’ve tried both the high speed and heavy buffer weights from Angry Gun and said the heavy made the cycle way too slow to recommend. To clarify is that the ROF or do you mean even a complete cycle per one single shot feels sluggish and gross? 

 Both. The rate of fire was much slower which i don't have a problem with as full auto is rarely used, but it was the cycling and gas efficiency that drastically declined. One of the MWS' defining traits is how snappy it is compared to GHK/WE/VFC and it just killed it dead. it's fun to throw some black gas in it and empty a couple of mags in the summer, but as a usable system, it's not for me. A Slightly stiffer spring would probably be the best all around option as the forward spring pressure seats the nozzle into the chamber as it speeds up the return cycle 

 

[RossF]

Hmm ok I’ll probably go ahead and get the high speed in that case.

 

[Sawyer]

How do you guys load your magazines?

I've got a TM speed loader with the adapter, but there must be a better way.

 

[Wo1f]

Use normal pistol speed loaders with the adapter. They’re quite stiff, but if you get the angle right it helps a lot. 

 

[RossF]

How do you guys load your magazines?

I've got a TM speed loader with the adapter, but there must be a better way.

I’m still using the TM plunger. I actually find it’s super fast and easy so why bother with a speed loader?

 

[Sawyer]

I’m still using the TM plunger. I actually find it’s super fast and easy so why bother with a speed loader?

I can't stand that fiddly bastard ? always end up with a mess of BBs.

 

[DopeYourScope]

With my fingers bb by bb because I’m a hardcore oper8er nah I usually use the TM plunger like Ross I find it quick enough however I snapped the stick in my pack at my last game so I’m going to buy a wooden dowel to replace it. 

 

[EvilMonkee]

I dont think I got a plunger in mine....

 

[Whisky1]

My cqbr didn't come with one, nor a cleaning rod which was surprising as ever TM ive brought has had one.

 

[Jacket]

Not underneath the cardboard insert that the rifle sits in? They are hidden away

 

[Wild Weasel]

With my fingers bb by bb because I’m a hardcore oper8er nah I usually use the TM plunger like Ross I find it quick enough however I snapped the stick in my pack at my last game so I’m going to buy a wooden dowel to replace it. 

Have you thought of using an electricians fishing rod for pulling through wires - cheap strong and almost identical?

 

[LEGXGPF]

Hey guys,

Im just find on youtube exactly same problem, which I have with my MWS. Its doing on lower temperatures after longer shooting... first shot is good, second do big noise and no bb came out and next shot is good again...

Here is that clip:

Any advices? Thank you

PS: I dont use mag as a bipod like that girl

 

[Wo1f]

Sounds like a sealing issue. Either nozzle to bcg or nozzle to bucking. 

Have you checked the nozzle return spring and that the float valve isn’t sticking ?