THE TM MWS thread

[Softcore]

Thanks, I was wondering because there's no mws markings on the packaging for the carbine version, but from everything I've seen online and just looking at the barrel nut it looks identical between all versions(carbine, mws and block1). Better safe then sorry though. One more thing I noticed looking at the above pic is that one could probably take the ris rails off an mws and put it onto the carbine version without unscrewing anything. Too bad they're not sold separately.

 

[bapexxx]

My hpa drum mag finally arrived! Can't 3ai5 to test it out... Hmm but now I am not sure how to fill up the drum mag with bbs loool

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[bapexxx]

Thanks, I was wondering because there's no mws markings on the packaging for the carbine version, but from everything I've seen online and just looking at the barrel nut it looks identical between all versions(carbine, mws and block1). Better safe then sorry though. One more thing I noticed looking at the above pic is that one could probably take the ris rails off an mws and put it onto the carbine version without unscrewing anything. Too bad they're not sold separately.

I cant remember how to remove the rail on the original mws now its been a while but its not that hard. 

I am not too sure if you need a barrel nut adapter(?) cant really remember what its called. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Spear-Barrel-Adapter-Marui-Airsoft/dp/B01M349CHJ something like this

 

[Softcore]

I am not too sure if you need a barrel nut adapter(?) cant really remember what its called. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Spear-Barrel-Adapter-Marui-Airsoft/dp/B01M349CHJ something like this

I believe the adapter is only necessary if I leave the original barrel on, right? The G&P MK18 front set has a shorter barrel with adequate spacing to mount the rail. I assume all I'd have to do is to remove the original barrel and mounting, put the inner barrel into the new outer barrel and screw everything in place. One thing that worries me is the hop up adjustment while removing the inner barrel and reattaching it - is complicated to remove the dial mechanism?

 

[bapexxx]

I believe the adapter is only necessary if I leave the original barrel on, right? The G&P MK18 front set has a shorter barrel with adequate spacing to mount the rail. I assume all I'd have to do is to remove the original barrel and mounting, put the inner barrel into the new outer barrel and screw everything in place. One thing that worries me is the hop up adjustment while removing the inner barrel and reattaching it - is complicated to remove the dial mechanism?

You can always buy the adapter later lol if it doesnt fit properly.

As for the hop up bit you dont need to worry. You kinda just yank the outer barrel and inner barrel out from the upper receiver. When you put everything back just make sure the hop up arm is in the right place. What I did was to set the hop up to the max using the dial  (so there is a bigger gap and it is easier to place the hop up arm back into place). 

 

[Davegolf]

*set hop to minimum when removing / installing barrel assy*

 

[bapexxx]

*set hop to minimum when removing / installing barrel assy*

Yea minimum or maximum can't remember which way lol my bad

 

[mr^Mobs]

So guys, just an update on using the W.E and MWS NPAS (silver one)

Its outer diameter is larger then the inner diameter of my nozzle causing it to get stuck and sending all the gas into the blowback function and none down the barrel.

Yeah I ordered the marui one and they sent me the we (silver one) what I did was modify the follower plastic piece by removing slivers of it. Untill the npas adjuster plate sat flush at the back of the opening. And now it functions perfectly. Fully open I was getting 1.61 joule 98m/s on .40bbs yesterday evening.

I'll try and show with pictures!

Hopefully this helps. As it'll save you some time and money on a new npas

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[Jigorugu]

I've buyed this alum stock for my mtr16 marui but it doesn't fit , the thread is diferent . So as i am ready to buy another gbb and it will be obviously a mws , somebody should tell me that is the mws buffer tube is identical to the mtr16 ( if he was the same thread) .

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[Uncle Pauly]

Ok... STUPID QUESTION ALERT! (so bear with me).

Which way do you turn the hop-up dial to increase/decrease the amount of pressure applied to the nub?

From trying to decipher the Japanese manual it looks to me like:

1) Rotate the dial forward towards the barrel-end to reduce pressure on the nub (open up the hop rubber)

2) Rotate the dial backwards toward the stock end to increase pressure on the nub (‘pinch’ the hop rubber)

Is that correct?

I’ve been using my MWS as stock since I bought it and haven’t yet needed to adjust the hop-up (been firing 0.25s straight and true), but am now switching up to heavier BBs and need to do some fiddling ?

PS: for anyone familiar with guitars this feels very much like messing with a truss rod!

 

[RossF]

Ok... STUPID QUESTION ALERT! (so bear with me).

Which way do you turn the hop-up dial to increase/decrease the amount of pressure applied to the nub?

From trying to decipher the Japanese manual it looks to me like:

1) Rotate the dial forward towards the barrel-end to reduce pressure on the nub (open up the hop rubber)

2) Rotate the dial backwards toward the stock end to increase pressure on the nub (‘pinch’ the hop rubber)

Is that correct?

I’ve been using my MWS as stock since I bought it and haven’t yet needed to adjust the hop-up (been firing 0.25s straight and true), but am now switching up to heavier BBs and need to do some fiddling ?

PS: for anyone familiar with guitars this feels very much like messing with a truss rod!

Hahaha hilarious. I was literally just sitting here thinking I need to start noting down which way my gun hop units function because everyone I get back from a game I can’t remember which way is off.

The MWS is down to turn off/reduce the pressure on the nub. Also with the MWS bbs will roll out the barrel of its off completely and you hold it facing the floor.

Now I just need to remember which way is off for my TM MP7 GBB and TM HK45

 

[Dread68]

But which way is down ? All depends how you hold your gun whilst adjusting 

 

[Wo1f]

To increase the hop, you drag your finger across the dial from the front of the gun to the rear. If you’re right handed then it would be counter clockwise. 

@RossF the mp7 has an arrow on the black hop wheel for the direction

 

[bapexxx]

Hahaha hilarious. I was literally just sitting here thinking I need to start noting down which way my gun hop units function because everyone I get back from a game I can’t remember which way is off.

The MWS is down to turn off/reduce the pressure on the nub. Also with the MWS bbs will roll out the barrel of its off completely and you hold it facing the floor.

Now I just need to remember which way is off for my TM MP7 GBB and TM HK45

I totally understand your pain hahaha. For me I always look at the little bump that the hop up arm creates. If I turn the dial to one direction and the bump is getting smaller then i know that direction is reducing the hop lol. Stupid I know but that works for me and I dont need to remember which way i need to turn the dial lol

 

[Jimmeh]

The way I remember it, and bare with me here........ is this:

If you were to hold the rifle as if in the aim and rotate the rifle around the wheel, and keep the wheel still... the rifle will point upwards and the wheel won't have moved relative to you. That way makes the BB's go up i.e. more hop.

 

[Uncle Pauly]

The MWS is down to turn off/reduce the pressure on the nub. Also with the MWS bbs will roll out the barrel of its off completely and you hold it facing the floor.

To increase the hop, you drag your finger across the dial from the front of the gun to the rear. If you’re right handed then it would be counter clockwise.

For me I always look at the little bump that the hop up arm creates. If I turn the dial to one direction and the bump is getting smaller then i know that direction is reducing the hop lol

Thanks guys! So my deciphering of the manual was correct, that's good to know ?

Here's the graphic I was referring to, for anyone interested, showing how to increase the hop by turning the dial as @Wo1f mentions "front of the gun to the rear"...

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The way I remember it, and bare with me here........ is this:

If you were to hold the rifle as if in the aim and rotate the rifle around the wheel, and keep the wheel still... the rifle will point upwards and the wheel won't have moved relative to you. That way makes the BB's go up i.e. more hop.

I like the way your head works! ?

 

[Jimmeh]

I like the way your head works! ?

After several games of "which was was it again" it was the only way I could get it to stick in my head.

 

[Whisky1]

The way I remember it guys is, when the gun is pointing away from you or to the the right of you, it's clockwise.

 

[Dread68]

It was a absolute pain for me as i will rebuild the hop with the barrel to the left . But when i adjust the hop i usually have the barrel to the right . So i just put a + and - on the body to remind me 

Quick question.  Has anyone tried the orga barrel for the mws ? Have one for my 416c and am happy with the results.  So was going  to give it ago 

 

[Wo1f]

It was a absolute pain for me as i will rebuild the hop with the barrel to the left . But when i adjust the hop i usually have the barrel to the right . So i just put a + and - on the body to remind me 

Quick question.  Has anyone tried the orga barrel for the mws ? Have one for my 416c and am happy with the results.  So was going  to give it ago 

I’ve had 2. Good quality. Not the best on the market, not the worst. I ran one in my dmr for a while but I prefer the steel barrels now like the Prometheus. Little tighter so more FPS boost without having to ‘turn it up’ and being steel it should be more durable.