The Special Forces/Milsim thread

I don't personally find BB's are anywhere as accurate as a 5.56 round. At the extent of the range of my gun I find I need at least 5-10 rounds to get the hit. Yet at 30metres or so I would expect to very reliably hit what I was shooting at with 5.56 (and various other calibres I have used). Considering with a 22 I can happily shoot into the 85 score range I am pretty confident I can hit a penny at that range with most shots, let alone a person. Yet with my BB gun I miss quite a bit. Therefore a realistic amount of ammo is 5-10x what a real gun would use, so 150-300 rounds. Therefore depending on the accuracy of your gun your realistic ammo ranges are in the mid cap to high cap range. 30 round magazines just don't seem skirmish able to me.

 
An interesting point BC, but it doesnt hold water when the overwhelming majority of player use their mid/high caps like they're sprayin' an a prayin'. Fire discipline, accurate shooting and sound field craft and use of the ground apply just as much to airsoft as they do to the real world. The lack of range in airsoft means we only have to get that bit closer. If hit percentages and range was the issue, it wouldn't be in CQB settings. I just don't see how one the one hand its all about using a weapons that is as realisitic as possible and on the other having a magazine that the A Team would be proud off.

 
Around christmas time I think I might start getting parts to make a block2, but no internals. I don't really have the cash to buy a whole new gun so I could make a gutted one then swap out the GB and motor to go into the new receiver. Thats if i dont end up buying a CM18. Does anyone know where to get a block2 part sheet/list at full resoplution?

 
We have our milsim this weekend.

Many of the players have only skirmished before and this will be their introduction to milsim and the use of mid caps and restricted ammo. Some players are renting weapons. It will be interesting to see whether they enjoy a different style of play,

The three principal forces which include a coalition special forces team have enough experienced milsimmers to demonstrate by example.

Low caps are permissible but with an ammo allowance of 600 rounds, thats a lot of mags to buy.

Most airsofters play to a budget.

 
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Can't wait for this Baz. I'm so excited but nervous at the same time as this is my first milsim. Only one more sleep to go before the rebels are eradicated :)

 
I carry Midcaps and a backup Hi Cap. I can burn through all my midcaps in an hour of play and have to get out the Hi.

There is a lot more shooting in the general run of Airsoft compared to real life. Airsoft is a day of continuous contact

Players would have to be issued with a fixed number of BBS at the start if they were all expected to fight evenly using 'realcap' magazines.

There would be a lot less shooting which might be more realistic but would be boring as hell.

I play to shoot people and be shot. not to sit around for hours waiting for a couple of minutes of contact.

 
I think you've summed up the main difference between skirmishing and milsim.

I think the mindset of skirmishers and simmers is very different. To the latter, an airsoft weapon is just a part of the experience; its another piece of equipment. The fun of milsim is more about the immersion of a scenario. Things like using vehicles, handling a range of military equipment and proper planning and execution. Neither is right or wrong, its just about what you enjoy as a recreational player.

CaptainSwoop said:
I carry Midcaps and a backup Hi Cap. I can burn through all my midcaps in an hour of play and have to get out the Hi.

There is a lot more shooting in the general run of Airsoft compared to real life. Airsoft is a day of continuous contact

Players would have to be issued with a fixed number of BBS at the start if they were all expected to fight evenly using 'realcap' magazines.

There would be a lot less shooting which might be more realistic but would be boring as hell.

I play to shoot people and be shot. not to sit around for hours waiting for a couple of minutes of contact.
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I don't know much but to me the one on the right looks like a RICAS and the middle could be a Crye AVS?

 
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Judging from the mass of Paraclete pouches between the 3, the guy in the middle and on the right are wearing an RAV not sure on the left hand guy though

 
All three are wearing Paraclete RAVs in various configurations.

Photo is pre-AVS by a number of years, I'd say 2008-9 I I were to take a guess.

The RICAS is made by warrior assault systems and has probably never been worn by any US serviceman since they're not berry compliant.

 
Would it be worth getting the TMC AVS? I've heard very mixed reviews over a few forums

 
Not sure if I asked but what are people's thoughts on the flyye 6094 pc?

 
Flyye 6094 is well made, but it's a copy of the 6094B so it's LARGE, unless you're a pretty well built guy it'll hang off you.

TMC AVS is absolute garbage, avoid.

 
I see, whats the best 6094 replica under £100? I've seen the emerson and TMC but i expect they'll be of similar quality

 
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