The Daytona Build

[LordGeorge]

Cheers dude, new realm of adventure

Dont suppose you know of anyone doing the DG buckings in the UK ?

I dont mind buying them off tony but its a long wait and expensive delivery order for some bucking.

Need some to tie me over till i R-hop something, i have cracked the first bucking and nicked the second so pretty sure air is getting out.

I did however find the leak, besides the bucking.. seems to be the slot for the bucking on the barrel seems to be letting it all out.

Will teflon tape it for the moment.

 

[proffrink]

I have one spare - cover the cost and postage and it's yours.

 

[LordGeorge]

I have one spare - cover the cost and postage and it's yours.

You sure dude, i was half thinking buying a load in and selling them off as and when.

PM me how much you want dude, may go for it so i can rule out the air leakingz.

 

[LordGeorge]

Some new toys came today

Absolutely beautifull finish, as you can tell !!

Little longer than the origional but hey, looks its pretty.

Side note, installed speed trigger in polarstar, MK17. Very nice and only a little bump and grind to get it working

 

[proffrink]

That barrel is more expensive than some people's guns. Don't scratch it.

 

[LordGeorge]

That barrel is more expensive than some people's guns. Don't scratch it.

Im cradling it like the baby jebus, got another on order for the scar little more as its the 500mm.

B)

 

[proffrink]

Yeh, hopefully worth the money.

 

[LordGeorge]

R-hop installed and a few inches of ptfe tape later and all good.

Barrel sealed nice and tight.

But issue 2000, when firning with bbs fed by mag it causes the bb to dribble out the end of the barrel.
If i preload a BB and fire with the mag in, the first fires out and second dribbles out.
But if i take a single BB and feed it into the hop and cock it, it fires around 310 consistently "for each time i load one in.

Any ideas ?

EDIT

I have also tried different mags and types with the same issue.

 

[proffrink]

Double feeds? Again, FAQ man - double feeds and chewed up ammo is common for the first 5000 shots.

Edit

Especially as you should be running with zero hop right now until you're around 4000-6000 in. There's nothing holding the BBs back except the nozzle when it's forwards.

 

[LordGeorge]

Double feeds? Again, FAQ man - double feeds and chewed up ammo is common for the first 5000 shots.

Troble is this never used to happen. I have already got a convo going on, on the FAQ so hopefully this will shed some light.

It doesnt always double feed with the same issue though.

 

[proffrink]

It's your hop; you just switched barrel onto an R-Hop, right?

 

[LordGeorge]

It's your hop; you just switched barrel onto an R-Hop, right?

This was happening before the change it just wasnt clear as the FPS was wonky as hell.

 

[proffrink]

So why are you saying this never used to happen? Good news is that it's almost certainly the break-in.

Also, you haven't got to quote me if I'm to post above, lel.

 

[LordGeorge]

aha yeah lol, i think it was there it just wasnt clear. Since fixing the air leak its clear there is a other issue.
It did fire a bit more normally in the past but never have i had 310 fps so i suppose i know im going the right way
Lets hope it is

 

[proffrink]

Well, just give it that first 5k. Disassemble, reassemble and then do another 5k

 

[LordGeorge]

Ok so after a hour of free time today i have worked out the issue.
It seems that when manually loading a bb it sits snug in the hop ready for the air to kick its ass. But when allowing the bolt to cycle it pushes the bb no further into the hop but at enough speed to allow it to slip right past the hopup.
Upon closer inspection, lube has been layering the hopup and barrel, hence why the bb slips past. If i add a ton of hop, and only then will it stop the bb from falling out but then looses 60 ish fps.

This is also backed up by the fact that when pre loading the bb, i get a single shot as expected followed by one falling out which is simply the next in the cyle passing the hopup. No double feed, just too much lube. "never though id say that " h34r:

On a down note, can anyone notice any issues with the picture below ? :wub:

Looks like a new charging hangle is making its way to me sooner than expected

 

[proffrink]

Yeh, the lube will screw with your hop for that break-in given how much of it you have to use. My only recommendation would be regularly swabbing the bucking/R-Hop with isopropanol when possible.

I did try and hint that the charging handle may not stand up to the rigours of a Daytona Gun a few posts ago, heh. Try and source a real one from the US and modify it to fit. Prime may also do some decent ones.

 

[LordGeorge]

Cool will get some swabs on the ready !
Haha, i pulled it back and all of a sudden the handle let go..Ooops lol

Well i have been looking at the Rainer arms PTS as i just love the look of it, trouble is it looks like PTS dont make them anymore so i can only get the KWA variant.
Any ideads what the difference would be between a KWA and a WE handle ?

 

[proffrink]

I had the PTS Rainier Arms one. Just sold it with my WOC - it was a really nice charging handle. Thing is, the PTS stuff is not going to be as good as a real steel one. It needs to be very strong for pulling back that bolt multiple times, and PTS just don't make one good enough for that.

Stick to the really high-tier airsoft manufacturers (like Prime) or get a real one if you want something that's truly going to last.

Edit

They aren't actually a huge amount of money: http://www.rainierarms.com/mega-ar-15-slide-lock-charging-handle

 

[LordGeorge]

Looking into getting a real one, got some quotes out there to request a courier other than USPS as anything via royal mail into customs takes too long.
The stark grip passed customs within a day while the DG took 9 days im sure.