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Testing BBs

Hi all I have revisited some of the tests and adjusted them slightly to try and give a more consistent view of the BBs.

I have been surprised by some of the budget price BBs doing so well and some of the expensive ones failing to match them.

The BBs are listed as they perform in the tests and in the preference I would buy as every day shooters bearing in mind cost.

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Some people did not have the program to open the XLS so have done the above.

As you can see nothing touches the G&G BBs for roundness or polish.

I am going to have a lot of new BBs to test shortly & update, but have just purchased a bulk order of Proballs from Socom Tactical to use in my guns. I would buy G&G if cost was not an issue.

 
OK so this is the latest BB testing update.

Sorry that the BBs tested are all Proball thanks to Lewis from Socom Tactical for the samples.

The normal Proballs get darker as they increase in weight and seemingly harder to shatter.

The Proball Bio BBs are whiter for the same weight but shatter easier and into slightly smaller pieces but not as many or as small as the Nuprol BBs.

The slight out of roundness I am sure is from the sheer marks from the injection process which leaves a pin prick crater I have to use a strong magnifier glass to see.

Need other brave manufacturers to send me their BBs for testing or have you been scared off for fear of not doing well...

[individual scores = 10 is the best and 1 is the worst]

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thanks for that :)

just curious, did you do the taste and crunch test for the Bio ones?  ;)

See if i can get some excell ones, may be a while as nee to see my brother

 
I'm old my teeth are not that good.

I have been happy with the way the .25 Proballs performed in game so far and look forward to range target testing the others, just not enough time.

 
Hi I just heard that a batch of green ASG blasters was found to be very poor quality like the consistency of a polo mint only softer and off colour. Very chalky and breaking up on impact. If you have any of the blasters get some pliers and check if you have  the substandard ones, just squash with pliers and see if they turn to small broken parts or just split in two. If you have the bad ones come on here and let us know where you got them and when so we can identify the batch. BB's like these are a danger to airsofters that use wire mesh face-pro.

 
Hi all its been a while since I have been sent any BBs for testing so no new results to give you.

I no that some of you have read my results and purchased the BBs I had at the top of the table as when I went to purchase more they were all sold out and are on back order.

Thinks, I can see the shops putting their prices up right now, hope not.

If you have found a good brand that gives good results then let me no

 
I have some 0.25 valken infinity bb's that seem to be doing rather well for me, send me your address an I'll pop some in the post when I can, likely to be trying ares ameoba soon too

 
So what does it all mean? What should be be using when it comes to .20g bb’s? I am curious and with so many variables. What happens when the best brand or any brand make a”bad batch” of bb’s?

 
gasman said:
Hi all its been a while since I have been sent any BBs for testing so no new results to give you.

I no that some of you have read my results and purchased the BBs I had at the top of the table as when I went to purchase more they were all sold out and are on back order.

Thinks, I can see the shops putting their prices up right now, hope not.

If you have found a good brand that gives good results then let me no
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I've stuck with the Blaster Devils .36s in my Tippman set up as a DMR  at ~430 FPS. Not had any issues, didn't see any improvement using Geoffs .40s, I probably need some more work on the hop.

For the AEGs, moved to .30 Blasters once I flat hopped them.  Again no real issues, though I do find green blasters shatter when fired against a tile wall at 5 to 8m some of the time (especially the .25s), other times just splits in half or does not shatter which could indicate variable quality.

Cheers

G

Dino said:
So what does it all mean? What should be be using when it comes to .20g bb’s? I am curious and with so many variables. What happens when the best brand or any brand make a”bad batch” of bb’s?
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What are you using them for?

I only use .20s for CQB at the Mall and chrono.  As the Mall is now closed, not using many ?

In the Mall I used Green Blasters, Ambush .20s and Blaster Tracers without issue.

Cheers

G

G

 
Glad to hear you are doing well MisterG my table above reflects exactly what you say why did you not stay with the G&Gs was it because you had difficulty getting them in the weights you wanted?

Dino I would not tell you what to buy or from whom but a good manufacturer does not let a bad batch leave the factory, quality control and men of science with very expensive testing machines make sure of that.

Some manufacturers do not have the same quality control and seem to rely on guesswork or poor materials for their mixes hence size, weight, air bubbles injection mould  marks, roundness and how and if they shatter.

Try as many makes as you can and record if they feed well group well and if you shoot at a close hard target how they shatter.

 
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gasman said:
Glad to hear you are doing well MisterG my table above reflects exactly what you say why did you not stay with the G&Gs was it because you had difficulty getting them in the weights you wanted?
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Couldn't find the G&Gs in .30 when I needed them.  Will probably go back to them now that I have nearly used up the ones I have.

Cheers

G

 
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Glad to hear you are doing well MisterG my table above reflects exactly what you say why did you not stay with the G&Gs was it because you had difficulty getting them in the weights you wanted?

Dino I would not tell you what to buy or from whom but a good manufacturer does not let a bad batch leave the factory, quality control and men of science with very expensive testing machines make sure of that.

Some manufacturers do not have the same quality control and seem to rely on guesswork or poor materials for their mixes hence size, weight, air bubbles injection mould  marks, roundness and how and if they shatter.

Try as many makes as you can and record if they feed well group well and if you shoot at a close hard target how they shatter.
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Will do.  Thanks for all your hard work. :)  

 
Thank you for this topic very interesting indeed it appealed to the nerd in me.

Cheers!!

 
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Just found a few interesting charts I thought you all might be interested in relating to BB weight and distance. Lots of variables with this as every gun setup is different but your average quality gun should give the same results.

http://mackila.com/airsoft/atp/07-b-07.htm

I get 120feet using .25bbs in my guns with ease at 350fps and accurate. I can also shoot .32 bb weight and get the same distance but more accurate.

 
gasman said:
Just found a few interesting charts I thought you all might be interested in relating to BB weight and distance. Lots of variables with this as every gun setup is different but your average quality gun should give the same results.

http://mackila.com/airsoft/atp/07-b-07.htm

I get 120feet using .25bbs in my guns with ease at 350fps and accurate. I can also shoot .32 bb weight and get the same distance but more accurate.
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yeah they did a lot of work for that analysis, i did something similar to work out the advantages of different ammo although not quite to the same depth (they covered effect of firing up to get more reach etc)

the key difference between heavy and light ammo is because heavier ammo doesn't slow down as much due to drag it stays in the velocity region where the hop is lifting it for longer (hence more range) and keeps more kinetic energy (which means when it hits the target is more likely to feel and subsequently call it) and ofc the accuracy comes from being less effected by wind/leaves.

 
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Ok played at Absolute air-soft Reading yesterday in the snow and found someone with a bag of .25 Proballs that were not feeding in his gun properly.

I measured and tested the BBs for size and roundness and though they had come from a sealed bag they were not of the same quality of the Proballs I had previously tested.

The BBs were not round , had marks from die seperation and were crap quality but polished.

The player had not purchased from Socom tactical but from another stockist.

 I wonder if this is a random batch or is Proball lowering its quality control!

My son in law just bought a bag of 80,000 which are of good quality in .25.

So before I buy in bulk again I will sample and test and If not of good quality I will make my stockist and you aware!

 
Out of curiosity have your tried looking at 'the draft club' range of bb's. I have been running their .28's for the last year and not noticed any issues over that time.Though i notice they seem to have changed marketing tact and done away with their 'rewards' scheme

 
gasman said:
Ok played at Absolute air-soft Reading yesterday in the snow and found someone with a bag of .25 Proballs that were not feeding in his gun properly.

I measured and tested the BBs for size and roundness and though they had come from a sealed bag they were not of the same quality of the Proballs I had previously tested.

The BBs were not round , had marks from die seperation and were crap quality but polished.

The player had not purchased from Socom tactical but from another stockist.

 I wonder if this is a random batch or is Proball lowering its quality control!

My son in law just bought a bag of 80,000 which are of good quality in .25.

So before I buy in bulk again I will sample and test and If not of good quality I will make my stockist and you aware!
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I also am not impressed. They really do not feed well. But I will caveat this because I stripped all my midcaps down and cleaned them out and put Teflon dry lube into them and they seem a lot better. Time will tell. But I do not trust proballs now. 

 
It seems that anything out of China is a hit or miss when it comes to tolerance or quality. I cant understand how they would let a batch of such bad quality leave the factory.

If I find my next tested bag is poor I will go back to G&G PSBP or Swiss Arms depending on price!

I do find Mid-caps as they age feed progressively worse springs weaken.

 
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