Struggling to Beat My Anxiety and Go.

[Sambo]

Good post Lewis,

The only thing I'll comment on is the safe zone may be treated differently now.

Some sited will ask you to use your car as your bench for kit so you only go into the site to register and then play.

Is this due to the covid? Or is that how it is now anyway?

 

[Nick G]

That's basically down to Covid

 

[Sambo]

If you can afford it, its worth getting a chronograph so you don't have to faff on site or worst case, possibly not be able to play if your gun is too hot

Does any of this information give a clue if it would be ok?

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[Nick G]

The 340 fps should be fine as long as it genuinely is, some guns are overpowered from the factory. Usual site limit for AEG guns in the UK is 350 fps measured with .20g BB

Looks like your model is set up for use in the UK based on that spec 

 

[Adolf Hamster]

In-game in particular, you actually will be recognising folk from their distinctive toy guns, masks, patches, hats, and what-not.

for years i was known as "f2000 guy".

who are absolutely equal whether they've been there for 10 years or 10 minutes, whether they're toting £3,000 of gear and gun, or a £30 springer shotgun.

i'd recount the times when having the more expensive toy gnu failed to prevent me getting shot, but it's happened so often i can't remember any more. pretty sure i got killed by a nerf gun once. i do remember a mate did once managed to get a "grenade" kill with a fudge bar.

its also worth noting that for the most part, just because a given gun is expensive doesn't guarantee that it performs well at the fundamental task of slinging plastic downrange, a lesson i wish i hadn't learned the hard way.

 

[GeorgePlaysAirsoft]

Its also worth bearing in mind that airsoft, unlike say school, or work is a pretty "safe space" to meet new people and just do things without any fear of fucking up. I think most of us can think of opportunities we've missed because we were either too anxious, un-confident, or just straight up scared. There's much less to go wrong when it comes to airsoft (socially speaking that is, soooo many things can go wrong with your kit but that's another subject!)

Personally I'd rather just go and meet people when i get there. Trying to arrange a "date" with some prospective friends would freak me out completely!

Making friends through hobbies is also just very, very useful in the long term. It doesn't have to be airsoft. A lot of the time - we make friends because we're all lumped together in a class room or an office and you find people you like and people you don't and you take it from there. But you leave school, and pensions allowing, you stop work and I think that is where some people go: "...fuck". 

 

[Rogerborg]

I never really seen it like adults that never grown up playing with toy guns. Sounds less serious when you put it like that. I guess that the area I live in isnt the nicest and I'm presume it would be like that in game.

That's exactly what it is, a game.  Some people do enjoy taking it quite seriously, and that's absolutely fine, but you don't have to take them seriously, or play the same way.  There really are folk (self included) who play in what can only be described as costumes.

And nobbers get filtered out, there's no room for them.  As Musica noted, we had a guy at our local site who took it too seriously.  Not a bad chap, he just got specially excited at a special event, grabbed another player to get his number and that was it, kicked off site and banned.  If you go looking for them, you'll find loads of "AIRSOFTER FLIPS OUT" clickbait videos, but those are mostly in the USA where they do things a bit differently.  Likewise the sniper headshot tosh that's going around, this is the exception, not the rule.  In general, you'll find people laughing with each other a lot more than shouting at each other.

Oh I never thought about that. I've been using 28g bbs. But I have no idea on the power but it leaves a sting when you've just got a shirt on from 10 metres away lol but thank you ?

You should be fine if you've bought from a half decent UK retailer.

0.28g is a good shout for woodland - just check if your site requires you to use biodegradable BBs, and how they want you to demonstrate that. I seem to recall one site saying that they expect you to open a new bottle or bag of BBs each day to try and ensure that you're not filling a bio container with non-bio BBs.

As @L3wisD noted, many (but not all) sites will want to put some of their 0.2g BBs into your mag for chrono.  Ask on the day what they expect.  If they chrono with their own BBs, then when you're going to chrono, either bring an empty mid cap, or fill a hi-cap with your BBs, but don't wind it up yet - they'll put their 0.2gs "down the spout", then you wind it up.

Another thing to add to your first day itinerary will be to let them know at sign-in that it's your gun's first day too and ask if you can get it chronoed sooner rather than later.  There will generally be a marshal or another player who can dig out a chrono and do that, and help you set up the hop.  Really, airsofters love to help out.

 

[Sambo]

Oh fuck, aye.. I somehow forgot about Covid 19!

Swap the part about looking for a table, to "Work from the boot of your car!" 

Well I've got a big van so I'd have the biggest table lol.

As mentioned, getting a chrono is certainly handy for checking and maintaining your guns (for there will end up being many ) at home, learn some teching skills and I guarantee you will have more airsoft mates than you can count !

Are they expensive? 

The 340 fps should be fine as long as it genuinely is, some guns are overpowered from the factory. Usual site limit for AEG guns in the UK is 350 fps measured with .20g BB

Looks like your model is set up for use in the UK based on that spec 

Well I got a 2200 lipo battery and it must be a rubbish charger as I've left it to charge for over 2 hours and the light never went green and I needed to go out to a stopped charging and put it all away for now. So if I'm using a 28g bb goes that make it slower at shooting but hit harder if that makes sense lol

for years i was known as "f2000 guy".

i'd recount the times when having the more expensive toy gnu failed to prevent me getting shot, but it's happened so often i can't remember any more. pretty sure i got killed by a nerf gun once. i do remember a mate did once managed to get a "grenade" kill with a fudge bar.

its also worth noting that for the most part, just because a given gun is expensive doesn't guarantee that it performs well at the fundamental task of slinging plastic downrange, a lesson i wish i hadn't learned the hard way.

I didnt want to spend alot/ it took loads of talking to my partner for me to go and get one so the fudge bar could save me some cash lol thank you ????

That's exactly what it is, a game.  Some people do enjoy taking it quite seriously, and that's absolutely fine, but you don't have to take them seriously, or play the same way.  There really are folk (self included) who play in what can only be described as costumes.

And nobbers get filtered out, there's no room for them.  As Musica noted, we had a guy at our local site who took it too seriously.  Not a bad chap, he just got specially excited at a special event, grabbed another player to get his number and that was it, kicked off site and banned.  If you go looking for them, you'll find loads of "AIRSOFTER FLIPS OUT" clickbait videos, but those are mostly in the USA where they do things a bit differently.  Likewise the sniper headshot tosh that's going around, this is the exception, not the rule.  In general, you'll find people laughing with each other a lot more than shouting at each other.

You should be fine if you've bought from a half decent UK retailer.

0.28g is a good shout for woodland - just check if your site requires you to use biodegradable BBs, and how they want you to demonstrate that. I seem to recall one site saying that they expect you to open a new bottle or bag of BBs each day to try and ensure that you're not filling a bio container with non-bio BBs.

As @L3wisD noted, many (but not all) sites will want to put some of their 0.2g BBs into your mag for chrono.  Ask on the day what they expect.  If they chrono with their own BBs, then when you're going to chrono, either bring an empty mid cap, or fill a hi-cap with your BBs, but don't wind it up yet - they'll put their 0.2gs "down the spout", then you wind it up.

Another thing to add to your first day itinerary will be to let them know at sign-in that it's your gun's first day too and ask if you can get it chronoed sooner rather than later.  There will generally be a marshal or another player who can dig out a chrono and do that, and help you set up the hop.  Really, airsofters love to help out.

Yeah I think I'd just ruff it and just do the okie dokie to get the hang of it. My bbs are biodegradable. Think that's quite a good thing from them. And if I'm shooting into a cardboard box at the bottom of my garden, could I reuse the bbs or should I bin them?

Thank you for your reply its educated me quite alot. Thank you ?

 

[Nick G]

Well I've got a big van so I'd have the biggest table lol.

Are they expensive? 

Well I got a 2200 lipo battery and it must be a rubbish charger as I've left it to charge for over 2 hours and the light never went green and I needed to go out to a stopped charging and put it all away for now. So if I'm using a 28g bb goes that make it slower at shooting but hit harder if that makes sense lol

I didnt want to spend alot/ it took loads of talking to my partner for me to go and get one so the fudge bar could save me some cash lol thank you ????

A chrono will set you back about £50 or so. The charging issue is probably the charger, if it's a Nuprol one their chargers are not great.Worth investing in a decent Lipo balance charger, Imax B6 or similar. Will be much better for your batteries in the long run.

Yes your .28BBs will travel more slowly but should posses (aprox) the same energy , 350 fps on .2's is 1.13 joules which should see you at about 290 / 295 fps with your .28's Lots of sites are now measuring energy with your own BBs ( there are legal restrictions on how powerful our toys can be) 

 

[Adolf Hamster]

So if I'm using a 28g bb goes that make it slower at shooting but hit harder if that makes sense lol

yes and no.

basically your bb will never have more energy than it does at the muzzle (for the sake of argument lets say 1.3j) and point blank it should hit as hard wether it's a .12 or a .48 everything else being equal.

a heavier bb when span up by the hop unit has a lower velocity for the same energy. however it doesn't slow down as quick so carries its energy better and as such hits a bit harder at range. you also get the side benefits of being less affected by wind/leaves etc.

generally i find for an assault gun style of role outdoors roundabout the .3g range is a nice balance of cost/performance, so you're off to a good start.

if you want the long winded explanation then here's some light reading:

 

[Sambo]

A chrono will set you back about £50 or so. The charging issue is probably the charger, if it's a Nuprol one their chargers are not great.Worth investing in a decent Lipo balance charger, Imax B6 or similar. Will be much better for your batteries in the long run.

Yes your .28BBs will travel more slowly but should posses (aprox) the same energy , 350 fps on .2's is 1.13 joules which should see you at about 290 / 295 fps with your .28's Lots of sites are now measuring energy with your own BBs ( there are legal restrictions on how powerful our toys can be) 

That's made how you know/can work all that out with the weight of bbs lol and I think I've got a picture of the box on my phone. I'll upload it. 

Thank you ?

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yes and no.

basically your bb will never have more energy than it does at the muzzle (for the sake of argument lets say 1.3j) and point blank it should hit as hard wether it's a .12 or a .48 everything else being equal.

a heavier bb when span up by the hop unit has a lower velocity for the same energy. however it doesn't slow down as quick so carries its energy better and as such hits a bit harder at range. you also get the side benefits of being less affected by wind/leaves etc.

generally i find for an assault gun style of role outdoors roundabout the .3g range is a nice balance of cost/performance, so you're off to a good start.

if you want the long winded explanation then here's some light reading:

Thanks man I'll have a read through it shortly. I'm glad to know I'm not too far off the mark

Thank you?

 

[Nick G]

Not got any experience of that charger, but I would advise getting a programmable one , it does give you greater control over charging and tells you much more about the condition of your Lipo's

 

[Sambo]

Not got any experience of that charger, but I would advise getting a programmable one , it does give you greater control over charging and tells you much more about the condition of your Lipo's

Could you recommend a good one by chance? Full name or a link?

Thank you

 

[Nick G]

The Imax B6 is very popular , although there are a lot of fake ones around. I use an Overlander one . I'll try and find a link

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Overlander-RC6-VSR-80watt-7A-Output-AC-DC-LiPo-Li-Ion-LiFe-NiMh-PB-Charger-3129/333135905040?epid=725234734&hash=item4d90728110:g:7sYAAOSwWYtcnkT1

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Overlander-RC6-VSR-80watt-7A-Output-AC-DC-LiPo-Li-Ion-LiFe-NiMh-PB-Charger-3129/333135905040?epid=725234734&hash=item4d90728110:g:7sYAAOSwWYtcnkT1

The Imax is popular but I replaced mine with the Overlander when it eventually started to play up. I have a lot of Lipo's between airsoft and RC flying !

 

[Rogerborg]

Well I've got a big van so I'd have the biggest table lol.

And you'll soon have a lot of friends.  Everyone loves the Man With A Van.

Are they expensive? 

Chronos?  Eh, I bagged for one £30 delivered, it works OK for casual use.  But you only need one if you're meddling with your guns. If you've got one that shoots anywhere in the 300-350fps range (or 280 if you believe in the Tokyo Marui Magic Fairies), you're fine.  You should be fine, it's not something to worry about prematurely. I can't speak to your site, but I always bring a spare gun (or two, or three, and batteries, and adapters) to loan out to folk having a bad day - we all want everyone to have a good time.

Well I got a 2200 lipo battery and it must be a rubbish charger as I've left it to charge for over 2 hours and the light never went green

That's not necessarily a problem. Heat kills batteries, and you want to charge them at a low rate.  Lipos can be charged slower than nimh because the charger knows what voltage to expect, rather than relying on seeing the resistance of the battery spiking.  That said, I would expect most chargers to charge a 2200 mAh lipo in under 2 hours.  That said, depending on the circuitry, charging lights aren't a great indicator of whether charging is actually complete. That said, the lights usually go out before charging is complete, not after.

Without a better charger or a multimeter, you won't know.  But if it's shooting, it's shooting, and it's good that you're on lipo already. So if you're in any doubt, I'd suggest buying another lipo first - having a spare is always useful - then a smarter charger, as funds allow.  I use a SkyRC brand IMAX B6, which gives a lot of info and options and can charge just about any battery you throw at it, but you don't necessarily have to jump straight there.  Really, go and play first, it'll all work out on the day.

My bbs are biodegradable. Think that's quite a good thing from them.

Wellllll, they say they are, and if they go into an industrial composter, they will degrade, but lying around in a UK woodland... not so much.  It's more of a sop to land-owners.  Don't tell them that though.

And if I'm shooting into a cardboard box at the bottom of my garden, could I reuse the bbs or should I bin them?

Well, you could, but I wouldn't recommend it.  A damaged BB can tear up your hop rubber, or (as I found) jam tight in the magazine.  I'm a cheap bugger and not a zealot on the issue, but I don't re-use BBs, even ones shot into water or a soft silicone target.  Using fresh BBs gives one fewer thing to go wrong.

It's fun to discuss this, but I'd urge you to not over-think it.  Chances are, everything will go fine and you'll have a great day.  Or if things don't go fine, just let people know, and watch as everyone jumps in to help.  It's that kind of hobby.

 

[AlphaBear]

There’s no more that I can say that hasn’t already been said suffice to say “Just do it,”. The smile on your face when you finish that first day’s skirmish will last all week. Hell it may even last till your next game. The only thing you won’t smile much about is that you’ll probably ache from here to kingdom come. But that’s all part and parcel of Airsoft. It’s simply damn good fun!  

P.s. I’ve seen them TM fairies. They are real!

 

[Sambo]

The Imax B6 is very popular , although there are a lot of fake ones around. I use an Overlander one . I'll try and find a link

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Overlander-RC6-VSR-80watt-7A-Output-AC-DC-LiPo-Li-Ion-LiFe-NiMh-PB-Charger-3129/333135905040?epid=725234734&hash=item4d90728110:g:7sYAAOSwWYtcnkT1

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Overlander-RC6-VSR-80watt-7A-Output-AC-DC-LiPo-Li-Ion-LiFe-NiMh-PB-Charger-3129/333135905040?epid=725234734&hash=item4d90728110:g:7sYAAOSwWYtcnkT1

The Imax is popular but I replaced mine with the Overlander when it eventually started to play up. I have a lot of Lipo's between airsoft and RC flying !

Oh I didnt think about that, I've got rc cars that I drift with and the charger for that looks like that but blue and it cost me a fair bit. I might get it out the loft and see what that's saying lol thank you for your link. If mine does work I'll be getting that one asap.

Thank you?

 

[Rogerborg]

Your RC charger should work just fine for airsoft batteries, if it's designed for their chemistry - nihms are nimhs and lipos are lipos.  Just check the polarity of the wiring - I believe airsoft mini-Tamiya connectors tend to be wired up opposite to RC for reasons that escape me.  Deans (T) connectors seem to be consistent, with posiTive across the Top of the T.

 

[_Eskimo_]

Mate, you'll be fine - and by the sounds of it a heck of a lot more self aware than some people too; so see that as a strength.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Your RC charger should work just fine for airsoft batteries, if it's designed for their chemistry - nihms are nimhs and lipos are lipos.  Just check the polarity of the wiring - I believe airsoft mini-Tamiya connectors tend to be wired up opposite to RC for reasons that escape me.  Deans (T) connectors seem to be consistent, with posiTive across the Top of the T.

this, afaik the white balance plugs are wired the same so if it charges through there.

a good charger (rc or airsoft) should make it very clear if it thinks you've got the polarity wrong.

i've been using my old rc kit since i started, still going strong.