private seller UKARA check
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Rogerborg
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Why would you be able to? It's for retailers, who pay £300+ a year for access to it.
Someone will be along in a minute to tell you about a retailer who's kind enough to check for you if you call them up (I can't think why), but you can at least reject buyers by asking for a UKARA number, then checking that it starts with one of the codes from a UKARA skirmish site:
http://www.ukara.org.uk/#approved
If your buyer says "Uh, XYZ123" then you can rule them out.
Personally I'd be more interested in them telling me where they play and providing some sort of evidence of that in the form of postings on a Failbook or forum account, or booking confirmations. Ideally, you'd check with that site whether they play there, since that's what actually matters.
Someone will be along in a minute to tell you about a retailer who's kind enough to check for you if you call them up (I can't think why), but you can at least reject buyers by asking for a UKARA number, then checking that it starts with one of the codes from a UKARA skirmish site:
http://www.ukara.org.uk/#approved
If your buyer says "Uh, XYZ123" then you can rule them out.
Personally I'd be more interested in them telling me where they play and providing some sort of evidence of that in the form of postings on a Failbook or forum account, or booking confirmations. Ideally, you'd check with that site whether they play there, since that's what actually matters.
Frank at Fire-Support has always been happy to help with UKARA checks for me in the past.
It's one option, but you don't have to do it every time. Just use your loaf
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I'm aware the how to check ukara has been answered but...
Do you only want to trade to Ukara members specifically? Not everyone has access to ukara, there is other VCRA defenses out there so don't rule them out when selling, ask them to provide a vcra defense.
Really bothers me when stuff is ukara only, its not the only defense.
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Personally, I would never accept a JusCos (cosplay) type defence. Airsoft site membership is good enough without being on UKARA database.
E21A
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Thats true but it’s the most common and widely accepted as the standard.
To be honest if someone is a regular skirmisher then there is no real reason for them to not have UKARA.
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I'm a regular skirmisher at my local site, but they have their own vcra called SWAT PASS, there's a real reason.
Not everyone has access to it.
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E21A
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If your a regular and can verify you’ve met the criteria yes. From memory you need a signature or a stamp or something on the form from the site
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Yeah I have my swat card etc. I mentioned ukara to them when I first started and they made it seem as if I can't have it as they have their own defense.
Only reason I'd want it as alot of sites don't accept it.
E21A
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Im assuming your a member there and paid a fee?
If so print onto the form and fill out your section and ask them to do their part, I can’t see any site refusing to do so, all you want it for is to buy RIFs and continue playing at their site.
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ImTriggerHappy
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Regular skirmisher but haven't had UKARA for the last... Year and a half? Might be longer now.
I could get one easily enough, I just don't get around to it. It certainly doesn't hinder the hobby for me.
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I’m sure it doesn’t/won’t hinder you unless you want to buy a RIF from a retailer
Rogerborg
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I would expect it would amount to fraud - to falsify documentation in order to mislead someone into believing that you are eligible for a specific legal defence from a clause of the VCR Act, and thus since it is the SALE that is the prosecutable act, it is the result of your presentation of counterfeit documents that an illegal transaction took place.
Just like if you force someone to kill someone, you’re charged with murder. If you have a big red button you know will blow up a disabled-gay-black-jewish-genius orphanage, but tell someone if they press it they’ll win a week in barbados with Scarlett Johansson, you’ll be done for murder when St. Barnaby’s House of Smiles goes boom.
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