Nov SSG11

[CamboL]

As much as I know that Novritsch products can be... divisive, this is his first new product launch since the SSG24 that has properly piqued my interest.

If you can get past the ghastly looks (I reckon a new stock and pistol grip would help!) this looks like a really viable option and a firm competitor out of the box for the Tac41 and potentially even most average VSR builds

Increased air volume (Bigger than both a Tac41 and obvs a VSR)

Adjustable piston weight

One piece receiver and outer barrel 

CNC hop chamber with TDC

100% Airseal

Proprietary airbrake kits due to launch which Nov claim will have no effect on power due to over volume

Finally someone has made 50+rnd magazines as standard

Suddenly this all looks quite appealing...

Only downsides I can see so far are:

Proprietary Hop Rubber (Neg's video made it look like a pain to change)

Don't like the larger fake magazine

Visually just looks a bit.... meh

What's the hive mind's thoughts? One to watch?

 

[Fatboy40]

To me it's so close (on paper) to beating the TAC-41 platform but just falls at the last hurdle, however I do think it has to be the best VSR 10 "style" platform (I say "style" as it's not 100% compatible as it has some proprietary parts).

Personally I'd discount the 50 rnd mags as game changing as Action Army did this a long time ago with theirs.

What interests me most is the air volume, so what the bolt pull is like considering you'd not need too powerful a spring.

 

[Lyndication]

Tbh I've never been sniping and needed 30 rounds back to back. If the gun is accurate generally I'm shooting much less. 

It does seem quite interesting overall, especially as it looks like a pretty solid out of the box sniper. I know, I know, you can make a Tac41 shoot like a laser 500m flat etc, etc.

The amount of times I see someone get a bolty without realising how much work and aftermarket it takes to be like [Insert Popular YouTuber Here] makes me think this will be a decent suggestion. 

It's a shame it looks the way it does though.

 

[Impulse]

The good:

+ 47cc cylinder volume

+ Weighted piston out of the box with weights to customise

+ One-piece receiver and barrel

+ Quick change spring

+ Firing pin indicator (I think this is underrated)

+ Great air seal out of the box (Negative Airsoft's video displays it pretty well)

+ Comes at a lot of standard powers, with FPS rings and the weighted piston it will be easy to really fine tune

+ Fake mag that lets you carry a spare

The bad:

- Proprietary hop rubber

- 47cc is likely going to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overvolumed if I'm reading it right and it has a 385mm inner barrel, which could cause inconsistencies. It feels like it was designed for the full thrust kit, not 6mm.

The ugly:

- The stock looks disgusting 

Honestly, on paper it looks pretty good, and I hope it's good because I like competition, and the Tac-41 has been looking too comfortable on the "best overall bolt action" throne in my opinion.

The two points it really lets itself down for me isn't even the appearance. It's the proprietary hop rubber and the fact that it's likely too overvolumed for the UK market. They should've just made it VSR rubbers out of the box rather than forcing a conversion kit for it. I reckon with the VSR conversion kit they're producing it'll be decent, but I'm still wary of that overvoluming. No idea if it's actually going to be any good as you don't know until you see it in the wild, but on paper it has all the makings of a good bolt action sniper rifle.

I also don't care about 50rd mags. Action Army already did those for VSRs (though I wasn't a fan there either as mine had feeding issues), you can get 110rd mags for the Tac-41, and I use 10rd mags in my m24 and don't really ever get into trouble because of it. If you need to rattle off shot after shot to hit a target, then maybe sniping isn't for you 

 

[Fatboy40]

... I like competition, and the Tac-41 has been looking too comfortable on the "best overall bolt action" throne in my opinion.

If SBA pull something magic out of their hat due to this then Novritsch deserves a pat on the back 

 

[CamboL]

The bad:

- Proprietary hop rubber

- 47cc is likely going to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overvolumed if I'm reading it right and it has a 385mm inner barrel, which could cause inconsistencies. It feels like it was designed for the full thrust kit, not 6mm.

Yeah thats a really good shout actually, there is such a thing as too much volume

All the chrono vids I've seen of it look really consistent, would be interesting to see one shoot properly to see if the flight is consistent

 

[Impulse]

Yeah thats a really good shout actually, there is such a thing as too much volume

All the chrono vids I've seen of it look really consistent, would be interesting to see one shoot properly to see if the flight is consistent

Overvoluming won't cause power inconsistencies, it'll be accuracy inconsistencies. Basically, if there's too much air, then what happens when the BB leaves the barrel is that there is still high pressure air behind the BB which then escapes with it and rushes past the BB, adding a bit of spin to the BB in a random direction depending on how the air happens to escape in that shot, which won't always be the same. The amount of spin is tiny and far less than what the hop up is doing, but any random spin is going to potentially create poor accuracy since we're firing a <0.5g spherical projectile at 2.3J or less and using backspin to abuse the Magnus effect to float them out further; it doesn't take much to impact our shots.

I'm also not an expert physicist, just a long-time airsoft sniper who probably has a bit of the 'tism when it comes to long range airsoft shooting...