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NAF 22

Shamal said:
 I can only speak as I find. All you guys that hate the event for whatever reasons,have you actually been and experienced bad behaviour? 
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No, but given the travelling involved for me to attend, I'd have to hear a lot more positives about before I'd consider it. 

& that goes for any site or event really, spunking a load of money on fuel, then adding green fees on top, I'd be severely pissed if I then had a shite time due to organisation or wholesale cheating. 

The doped up fucktards I could just about tolerate, as long as its not at playtime etc. 

 
colinjallen said:
It isn't just about when they are playing; they have everything they need to cause mayhem in the campsite.
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And that's different to any other campsite, how? (Apart from the guns - plenty of mischief can be had without those).

 
Tackle said:
No, but given the travelling involved for me to attend, I'd have to hear a lot more positives about before I'd consider it. 

& that goes for any site or event really, spunking a load of money on fuel, then adding green fees on top, I'd be severely pissed if I then had a shite time due to organisation or wholesale cheating. 

The doped up fucktards I could just about tolerate, as long as its not at playtime etc. 
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I could supply names of 20+ positives just in my small circle of acquaintances.

Come on down one year you will love it and it would be nice to meet you??

 
Shamal said:
I could supply names of 20+ positives just in my small circle of acquaintances.

Come on down one year you will love it and it would be nice to meet you??
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Don't leave it too long though cause I don't know how long I got left ??

 
Lozart said:
as what goes on in the campsite, there's more likely to be belligerent behaviour from the drinkers than the tokers
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Agreed, and if I regularly saw people necking White Lightning at lunchtime, or if OP's team name was "Boozed-Up Ball Battlers", I'd focus on that.

Lozart said:
That's not what I said and you know it.
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Fair point, and I apologise for implying otherwise.

That was really aimed in the general direction of OP, to pre-empt any assumption or assertion that a couple of $INSERT_SUBSTANCE_DOSES_HERE over lunch doesn't really count at all.

 
Shamal said:
All you guys that hate the event for whatever reasons,have you actually been and experienced bad behaviour? 
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I've been a couple of times,  granted it was over 10 years ago so things may have changed. My issues with the NAF are more to do with the way it's poorly run

Archer said:
4 years ?

Played there in 2003, no chrono's at all.

More than a few "hot " RIF's being used , including a very OTT APS2 SV.

One of the reasons i stopped using their site.
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The two times i went I don't think I saw a chrono once either. I did have one of their marshals tell me I had to have a MED for my 8mm shotgun,  despite not chronoing it. How he was able to tell the muzzle energy without seeing it fired I don't know 

 
weird derailment in here.

I went NAF last year, they were chonoing guns and tagging them with cableties to show that they had been tested and passed.  If i remember right they were colour coded for fps so visually marshals can see if its sub 350fps, 420fps for DMR of 500fps for sniper.  Not that its infallible for people bringing their own to pass without check, but at least an attempt was made.

As for the weed comment, not for me.  Our old neighbours used to do it every evening and it stank out our house, definately do not miss them now they have gone (by the loud day time arguments im pretty sure they were only together because she got pregnant).  All people i have come accross that use it regular seem to be the most paranoid, conspiracy theorist bunch that spew the largest amount of BS that i have ever come across. 

 
Bloody hell!

Not at all good.this will cause probs 

I never played in that area so can't comment but I will say that I experienced no bad play. Hits were fairly taken and verbally acknowledged for being good shots.marshals were never far from play and radio requests for medics were quickly responded to. 

Apart from some adrenaline fuelled shouting and cussing,I never saw any angry confrontations on or off field.

I hope that incident will be fully investigated.

 
Hopefully fully investigated, though it'd be hard to do so after the fact. Had this just been the first 1/4 of the post I'd be inclined to side with the poster, but since the other 3/4 seems dedicated to basically "I don't know who it was but it was definitely this youtuber I hate" I find it reeks of those people that seem to spend all day seething over single bell- sniper on youtube. 

 
Does KM play as part of a team ??? 

The op states that when they tried to question one particular sniper, his team mates all came to his defense ? 

 
There was an issue with over shooting, look what happened to one of our friends after he didn’t put his hand up to call a hitView attachment 95213

 
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kasaran said:
All people i have come accross that use it regular seem to be the most paranoid, conspiracy theorist bunch that spew the largest amount of BS that i have ever come across. 
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That's the thing though, they were probably weird conspiracy theorist nutjobs WITHOUT the weed. It doesn't magically make you into one, the same way that coke doesn't automatically make you Tony Montana. Equally alcohol doesn't make you a violent knuckle dragger, but it does lower the inhibitions of the average knuckle dragger to the point that they are happy to get violent. Of course, booze is socially acceptable but recreational pharmaceuticals aren't so we have to demonise them and the ones that partake. Personally, I'd far rather be camped next to a bunch of stoners than a group of piss heads.

 
Lozart said:
weed [doesn't] magically make you [paranoid]
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Mushrooms are magic, THC is science.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2014-07-16-how-cannabis-causes-paranoia

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4332941/

Anyway, sorry to hear that Licking Mustard was allowed on site, and that shenanigans were afoot.

Regardless if it were he, the latter is somewhat inevitable at any large event.  Inhibitions get dropped, "holiday rules" apply, there's anonymity for the few genuine wrong 'uns.

The same thing used to happen in big reenactment events, which were also effectively unregulated on the day.  You can publish all the rules you like, but psychopaths gunna psycho.

 
Lozart said:
I'd far rather be camped next to a bunch of stoners than a group of piss heads.
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But only one is going to leave a horrible smell on you, your clothes and on anything you brought with you (dont worry, I feel the same over cigarettes, though weed seems to be much stronger smelling for longer distances).  Maybe edibles would help, to spare those around you?

And while im ranting on drug use, why do vapers feel the need to blow so much vape out in crowded areas as to make a fog machine blush?  No one thinks its cool, would bet over half of those around just thing you're an ass.

 
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