Moscarts allowed?

[GeorgePlaysAirsoft]

the problem is all we have to go on is your written words, which in this matter aren't matching up.

going off 'borgs example of 40mm to the back of the head point blank that's a dick move and should be in anyone's book.

Cant argue with that. It is a dickmove yea but i dont consider it a health and safety issue myself. Some sites might and thats absolutely fair enough.

I actually agree that people shouldn't complain about being shot in the mouth if they don't wear adequate protection. However as players we have a duty to use our toys somewhat responsibly and take reasonable steps to help minimize "unnecessary" pain and injuries. Otherwise we'd just be a bunch of raging idiots full-autoing (at 60rps) eachother from two metres away.

I agree completely. Ive said my bit so i will bow out (but not gracefully!)

 

[Rogerborg]

Shot in the head at point blank range with a moscart?

Ah, sorry, I was unclear.  With a pistol, I believe, but it's why they're careful about what they let out there.  Oh, no silencers on Mk23s there now either, after someone chronoed with a bare Mk23, then put a barrel lengthener on it and pushed it up to 400fps.

I have no problem with being shot with a moscart.  However, if they let grenade launchers out there, someone will manage to put a 40-mike, TAG round, or under-loaded / over-gassed shell in them.

Again, this is a very busy, very-CQB site with loads of cover where engagement ranges are typically a few metres now.  Just chucking it out there to emphasise that you should check with your local site before spunking money on anything interesting.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Well I have been present when George took out a couple of people pretty much 2m away with a moscart and neither of them had an issue with it...

discounting any co2/underloaded shell/40-mike shenanigans i wouldn't call 2m point blank, hell if mine are anything to go by that's nearly maximum range on a cold day....

I actually agree that people shouldn't complain about being shot in the mouth if they don't wear adequate protection. However as players we have a duty to use our toys somewhat responsibly and take reasonable steps to help minimize "unnecessary" pain and injuries. Otherwise we'd just be a bunch of raging idiots full-autoing (at 60rps) eachother from two metres away.

well said, there's a line to be struck between accepting the inevitability of these things happening, and actively trying to make it happen. i can and do aim for headshots, but only when i don't have anything else to shoot at, if i have a choice it's always centre of mass.

Cant argue with that. It is a dickmove yea but i dont consider it a health and safety issue myself. Some sites might and thats absolutely fair enough.

I agree completely. Ive said my bit so i will bow out (but not gracefully!)

going by hitman's post i guess we could put this down to an differing definition of point blank.

 

[hitmanNo2]

Well yeah, I suppose point blank as in a couple of cm away.  Like you're about to fire past cover and someone sticks their head in the way on the other side of the cover.  I'd like to think we all had enough situational awareness for that not to happen but I guess it does.  Very rare I'd think.

 

[DrAlexanderTobacco]

discounting any co2/underloaded shell/40-mike shenanigans i wouldn't call 2m point blank, hell if mine are anything to go by that's nearly maximum range on a cold day....

I was in the room with him and it was definitely point blank haha

To the chests, though, not the face