Marui new GBBR's

[sonofsammo]

Yup, I have several TM’s, only gas ones are pistols though. Superb build quality, I agree, almost as good as the KWA ?????.

Seriously, what sort of price should I be thinking about for an MWS? Impulse101 have them for £360 plus postage and import duty ?

£360???????
How are you still thinking about it?????

ORDER!!!!!

 

[jcheeseright]

£360???????
How are you still thinking about it?????

ORDER!!!!!

+VAT +Duty ... it'll work out a lot more expensive than £360

 

[Wo1f]

Sadly. If it was £360 to my door I’d have ordered 10 lol

 

[Careless]

WE and VFC have g3’s waiting for release. I would give everything I owned for a gbbr PSG-1

yea iv been aware of them  , iv heard bad things about vfc though, apparently it will look and feel amazing but wont perform that way , which isnt what i wanted to hear but you never know as its not even been released yet , a psg1 would be perfect for gbbr aswell !! nice semi auto/dmr

 

[Wo1f]

yea iv been aware of them  , iv heard bad things about vfc though, apparently it will look and feel amazing but wont perform that way , which isnt what i wanted to hear but you never know as its not even been released yet , a psg1 would be perfect for gbbr aswell !! nice semi auto/dmr

Thats been the usual VFC gbbr consensus.. Looks great, shoots shit. That being said, their new 416 is apparently much better, so there's hope.

 

[The broadsman]

With the barrel wobble and the bolt lock not functioning correctly out of the box? 

 

[Wo1f]

With the barrel wobble and the bolt lock not functioning correctly out of the box? 

I was referring to gas efficiency/ performance. Their mp5, mp7, ump etc couldn’t even get through a mag on a gas charge. I wouldn’t touch a VFC if there was an alternative. I’d take a WE g3 over a VFC. 

 

[The broadsman]

Sadly VFC seem to have this amazing ability to produce some amazingly good quality external builds, but internally they are about as reliable as a chocolate teapot and that is matched by VFCs customer service.....

As much as I love TM and GHK, I have my hopes up for WE releasing one. I don't think much can go wrong with a stamped steel body, after market internals will be no doubt well supported. 

Wishful thinking but we can only hope.

 

[emilianoksa]

I've never understood why TM externals on pistols have to be plastic by law, but they are allowed to use quite a few metal external parts on their rifles - the metal outer barrels on their bolt action rifles for example, and the metal rail system on their MWS. I may be wrong but I think the upper receiver is metal too. 

 

[sonofsammo]

I've never understood why TM externals on pistols have to be plastic by law, but they are allowed to use quite a few metal external parts on their rifles - the metal outer barrels on their bolt action rifles for example, and the metal rail system on their MWS. I may be wrong but I think the upper receiver is metal too. 

Yup. The MWS is pretty much entirely metal...

Very odd.

 

[TheFull9]

Pretty sure the whole GBB M4 is metal?  Bear in mind absolutely everything they did used to be plastic, wasn't until the end of their old original AEG line they made a couple of metal guns then went metal all the time with the recoil shock series.  The metal construction on rifles doesn't really have any effect on performance (certainly on the electric ones), whereas it would on the pistols.  I can't say I know everything about Japanese law but I reckon they could do metal pistols at this point if they wanted, especially given they make some really small SMGs etc from metal, they're just choosing not to.  Thankfully.

 

[jcheeseright]

yeah, I'd be amazed if it was anything to do with the law, just a performance issue. 

 

[Wo1f]

The mws is all metal. The only bits of plastic on it is the stock, grip and nozzle. Their NGRS is also metal where they should be. 

I imagine it’s down to their 134a gas they use. That would never cycle a metal slide efficiently. 

 

[emilianoksa]

Thanks for the explanations.