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Macks airsoft dreamers of the week thread

GenuineGerman said:
Could/Is there be a thread on paypal fees? best not open that can of worms 
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Its not an argument i really understand.

Just work out the fee's and postage before you list it and add it onto the total price.

I mean your almost always tanking a massive depreciation loss when selling secondhand gear anyway.

 
Adolf Hamster said:
Its not an argument i really understand.

Just work out the fee's and postage before you list it and add it onto the total price.

I mean your almost always tanking a massive depreciation loss when selling secondhand gear anyway.
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for me the frustrating bit is as a buyer im paying selling fees maybe i should charge the seller buying fees. I agree that if its all in a oner then it gives you a complete cost not a price then all the extras  

 
I don't think there is but perhaps a simple guide on how to factor in paypal fee's into your final price might be a good idea? I use a online calculator, where I type in what I'd like to receive from the buyer after paypal takes their cut and it tells me the price I need the buyer to pay, I then whack on the postage costs and just list the all in price. No extra or hidden costs. You pay as listed and you get your new toy as fast as I can get it to the post office and Royal mail can get it to you.

 
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Encore said:
I don't think there is but perhaps a simple guide on how to factor in paypal fee's into your final price might be a good idea? I use a online calculator, where I type in what I'd like to receive from the buyer after paypal takes their cut and it tells me the price I need the buyer to pay. 
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the question is why should the buyer pay selling fees? They are selling so surely the seller should cover them?

 
GenuineGerman said:
for me the frustrating bit is as a buyer im paying selling fees maybe i should charge the seller buying fees. I agree that if its all in a oner then it gives you a complete cost not a price then all the extras  
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Tbh, its not something i've ever worried about, if i'm dropping a few hundred on a pew then dont see the point sweating over a few £ either way.

But then i dont tend to haggle either- if i dont like the price i just dont buy it or wait for the seller to drop it to a level i'm ok with paying. Someone else jumps in and buys it in the meantime so be it.

 
GenuineGerman said:
the question is why should the buyer pay selling fees? They are selling so surely the seller should cover them?
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Because most people when selling have a price in mind for what they want to get into their pocket once its all said and done. If want £150 in my pocket and its reasonable to ask that for what I'm selling then why can't I just ask for £170 all in? Paypal will charge me 4.79 for a sale of £150, so I add on 4.79 to my sale price then add delivery (lets says £15.21 for this example) so I ask for £170 and I get the £150 I wanted in my pocket at the end. 

Also that logic only applies to payment methods where there is a fee. Sellers could just as easily say pay me with a bank transfer or as family and friends on paypal where there is no fee to the seller. People accept paypal because it makes things convenient and gives buyers the extra security of paypal buyer protections which heavily favour the buyer. 

Personally I don't mind having the fee included in the total cost of what I'm about to buy second hand. If I buy something for X price all in, then I'm either happy to pay that price and I buy it or I'm not and I don't. Like Adolf Hamster said, if I'm dropping more than a few pints at the local in terms of cash on something, a few pennies to pounds more doesn't bother me at that point.  

 
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GenuineGerman said:
the question is why should the buyer pay selling fees? They are selling so surely the seller should cover them?
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Tbh if you think of the selling fee as VAT then its kinda ok?  i agree it should be accounted for when naming your price.  want £10 for it? place the advert for £11 or £11.50.  there are plenty of calculators on google work working that stuff out. 

 
I know im being pedantic however if there was buyers fees for sellers would those be passed on? I don't have a problem paying for something that i think is worth the money but just list the complete price. Its easy and im sure people that sell doing that tend to have quicker sales.

 
The topic of ‘Fees’ rears it’s ugly little heads quite regularly and in the end it always ends up the same way , you’ve got one side that says you should have one single figure that you ask for that covers everything and on the other you’ve got the ones who go in to very long winded reasons for why you have the goods price and then P&P plus PayPal is tagged on after . One of the biggest reasons they Say this seems to be letting the buyer choose the delivery method instead of setting it them selves wether by parcelfarce/ Royal fail or Hermies/etc me I just do Royal Mail/Parcelfarce as my preference for who I’ll send via and that’s that you want anything else ? Sorry no can do . 

 
Encore said:
Both the gun and suppressor are out of stock from the suppliers I can find and would trust so I'll take the cheapest price I can find from a reputable retailer even if out of stock.

ASG MP9  - £199.99

ASG M9 Suppressor - £54.99

Both prices pulled from PatrolBase. 

254.98 combined price brand new, applying a 60-70% of retail second hand value we get £152.99 - £178.49 second hand value. That is assuming the gun only has normal wear and tear damage. However the gun is damaged beyond that as the sling point is completely sheared off. And to top it off, the asking price of £180 is for collection/if you live within reasonable driving distance of him else he wants postage and PayPal fee's on top. (Paypal ToS state the seller is to take the cost of the paypal fee's and not charge to the customer)

Since the item is damage beyond normal wear and tear I'd go with 60% total retail value and sell it for £152.99 for collection and £170 odd for postage including paypal fees (I've can't remember how much it'd cost to post something of that size but I'm thinking around £14-£16? Correct me if I'm wrong)

I rest my case, your honour. 
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 Its not the worst we have ever seen by  LOOOOONNNNGGG stretch.

Speaking of which, any chance we can vote on a Top 3 of Macks from down the years? Be it sheer balls of an asking price or drama after?

 
Jaylordofwaargh said:
"Great for transporting tens of thousands of BB’s!! Simply dip your speed loader into it and your good to go!"

For me its this^^ WhyTF would anyone store loose bb's in here? i am all for novel uses but this was a forehead slap when i saw this
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I have one of those metal BB tins for my pre-used BBs. See this topic 




 
EvilMonkee said:
 Its not the worst we have ever seen by  LOOOOONNNNGGG stretch.

Speaking of which, any chance we can vote on a Top 3 of Macks from down the years? Be it sheer balls of an asking price or drama after?
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isn't that just gonna be won by the 1" at 50m nuprol guy?

 
GenuineGerman said:
Referring myself to Macks for calling it a Bum Helmet ?
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at least it's an accurate description of what you're looking for......

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£15 2nd hand on here or £9.88 from a U.K. seller on fleabay , not a huge amount in the wider scheme of things but still a third of the asking price , So not that much at first glance but bump it too an AEG for sale instead , when you then stick another 0 on the price it suddenly is a VERY big difference in amounts ? 




 
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I went looking for the detail on the 416, just wow. 

As to the 'i really want this gun and im definitely not 16/got a defence....

Also wow. Now, who is willing to talk to these guys and take a small cut to help fund the meet up later....(joking but damn)

 
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