• Hi Guest. Welcome to the new forums. All of your posts and personal messages have been migrated. Attachments (i.e. images) and The (Old) Classifieds have been wiped.

    The old forums will be available for a couple of weeks should you wish to grab old images or classifieds listings content. Go Here

    If you have any issues please post about them in the Forum Feedback thread: Go Here

Macks airsoft dreamers of the week thread

Just noticed he’s reduced it to £120 now. Save yourself £9 and loose any sort of warranty ?


Yes, I "helpfully" linked to the retail items.

It does come with an extra clipazine, I guess, and is only slightly scuffed.

 
Tbf the hammers on those taran's are notoriously weak, so a swapped hammer isnt a bad sign and i'd say inevitable even on a new gun.

 
Tbf the hammers on those taran's are notoriously weak, so a swapped hammer isnt a bad sign and i'd say inevitable even on a new gun.
mots more the fact the seller states it “does catch slightly” 

Even if the hammer change is legit, it’s still new money for a secondhand gun 

 
Why are used TM recoils so expensive... more so the HK variants? For example a used Delta say 1 one year old which has had say 40 mags through it with a mozzie still commands around £500'ish. I mean the gun is new for around £565 and granted a mozzie could set you back £120 -150 if you go for a titan advanced that is.... What gives?

 
still commands around £500'ish


Asks that.

Consider whether the "seller" really wants to shift it, or whether they're just doing it for form's sake.

They're not magic, offer half the new price.  Or just buy a CYMA and outrange them.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Why are used TM recoils so expensive... more so the HK variants? For example a used Delta say 1 one year old which has had say 40 mags through it with a mozzie still commands around £500'ish. I mean the gun is new for around £565 and granted a mozzie could set you back £120 -150 if you go for a titan advanced that is.... What gives?


I mean £565 plus £100-160 equals £665-725, and £500 is 75% of £665 and 69% of £725. 70-75% of RRP for a gun with less than one bottle of BBs through it isn't even all that high, although I would probably expect to receive more like 65-70% simply based on how much returns diminish after £400.

I think you might also be forgetting to factor in the high cost of quality accessories which are usually included with NGRS packages. Taking this Delta as an example:

  • Gun ~£550
  • Grip ~£20
  • Magazines ~£25ea.
  • ODIN M12 Sidewinder ~£50 (assuming it's genuine, and I'm not sure there are tan fakes)
  • IMAX B6 ~£35
  • Four batteries ~£50
That's £880, of which the £500 asking price is 57%. If he split the magazines, speedloader and charger off as separate items he'd be asking the equivalent of £341 for the gun and the batteries, which I would describe as "acutely reasonable".

 
Last edited by a moderator:
I mean £565 plus £100-160 equals £665-725, and £500 is 75% of £665 and 69% of £725. 70-75% of RRP for a gun with less than one bottle of BBs through it isn't even all that high, although I would probably expect to receive more like 65-70% simply based on how much returns diminish after £400.

I think you might also be forgetting to factor in the high cost of quality accessories which are usually included with NGRS packages. Taking this Delta as an example:

  • Gun ~£550
  • Grip ~£20
  • Magazines ~£25ea.
  • ODIN M12 Sidewinder ~£50 (assuming it's genuine, and I'm not sure there are tan fakes)
  • IMAX B6 ~£35
  • Four batteries ~£50
That's £880, of which the £500 asking price is 57%. If he split the magazines, speedloader and charger off as separate items he'd be asking the equivalent of £341 for the gun and the batteries, which I would describe as "acutely reasonable".


Based on your logic and using that example as an example it's actually a fair price for the whole package.. ideally you'd be looking at no more than 60% value for a used AEG (dependant on age/use) I hazard to guess.  Oh and I expect upgrades are only worth something if you as the buyer want them and deem them worthy... If you spend £600 kitting out your new AEG with superpower type upgrades and then expect a 2nd hand buyer to pay say £400 for them I think your expectation will be ill founded.  

It's just coincidence that advert turned up in the classified lol

 
I have a tan knock-off.


Shame. Odin is a one-man band developing awesome, innovative products. He quit airsoft product development for about five years after people took his brilliant design and immediately cloned it so cheapskates could save themselves £20. I have absolutely no doubt that this sort of thing contributes to the generally stagnant nature of airsoft technology.

SgtTalbert said:
If its tan its fake as per above.


Really? I wouldn't have thought iWholesales would sell fakes, but I've been wrong before. They're certainly priced like the real thing.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Back
Top