Kit for the Ukraine .

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I know in the community we have vast swathes of kit that can help fight on the frontline. Please see below. My fully loaded out plate carrier will be off to there this week. Find your nearest site here:

https://www.ukrainesupport.org.uk/

Thanks to Oliver Lee OBE for sharing.

 
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BigStew said:
I like the idea but unless you are willing to donate actual military surplus kit that is based on supporting the AK platform donating knock off Chinese gear with pouches for an armalite is going to do more harm than good.
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Ukraine is by no means limited to AKs, their Fort-221 (Tavor under license) is 5.56

Nor do I think Ukraine are counting stitches when this kit arrives. If it's no good to them they can bin it.

 
BigStew said:
I like the idea but unless you are willing to donate actual military surplus kit that is based on supporting the AK platform donating knock off Chinese gear with pouches for an armalite is going to do more harm than good.
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i'm sure some awesome airsoft folks will have AK items but a dump pouch don't know.

Also Ukraine switched to the AR platform as I'm sure your informed comment knows despite what the vast majority of TV shows.

Lastly how much does this hurt vs bombs?

MagpieTactical said:
Pretty sure the civvies they are handing guns to are getting the AKs though. The army will have kit. 
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More pro you look the less people gonna f with you no matter what it all helps

2 neg comments what is this ruscy bots come on get behind this.

DrAlexanderTobacco said:
Ukraine is by no means limited to AKs, their Fort-221 (Tavor under license) is 5.56

Nor do I think Ukraine are counting stitches when this kit arrives. If it's no good to them they can bin it.
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Thank you the M4-WAC-47





as produced in U Kran ine 

 
Even if it's sorted over here sorting through it will cause unnecessary delays. You'll do more good donating things like medical supplies or ration packs

MGMGrand said:
2 neg comments what is this ruscy bots come on get behind this.
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No. Just people who can see that, while the sentiment is good, the idea isn't. As for your Russian bots comment, that's just childish and silly considering you're the relatively new guy with a total of 4 posts and everyone else commenting are long time members who post regularly 

 
If you look like a pro your gonna be f'ed with less this is important. Share please to get the kit that they need.

 
DrAlexanderTobacco said:
Ukraine is by no means limited to AKs, their Fort-221 (Tavor under license) is 5.56

Nor do I think Ukraine are counting stitches when this kit arrives. If it's no good to them they can bin it.
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maybe so ain't seen any on the news but there is a shit load of AK variants.  it's not about counting stiches it's about sending crap that will fall apart on the poor sod that gets issued it

 
Cannonfodder said:
Even if it's sorted over here sorting through it will cause unnecessary delays. You'll do more good donating things like medical supplies or ration packs

No. Just people who can see that, while the sentiment is good, the idea isn't. As for your Russian bots comment, that's just childish and silly considering you're the relatively new guy with a total of 4 posts and everyone else commenting are long time members who post regularly 
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I know I've been very quiet for good reasons for many years (50 next year as a clue). But if you know better than Oliver Lee OBE then take it up with him. If you can't help then move along, if you can then help.

https://www.ukrainesupport.org.uk/

 
If you're approaching 50 then maybe stop acting like a 13 year old

BigStew said:
it's not about counting stiches it's about sending crap that will fall apart on the poor sod that gets issued it
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Which could easily get them killed

MGMGrand said:
If you look like a pro your gonna be f'ed with less
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What? Do you really think the guys fighting on the front like give a fuck about what they look like? 

Also your link above doesn't mention anywhere about what donations they want, so I don't know where you've got this idea to send them load carrying equipment etc

 
@MGMGrand your intentions may be good but your attitude sucks , if you want people to help the Ukraine defend its self against the Russian invasion insulting and belittling them certainly won’t help you . Wind the attitude in and you ‘may’ get a better response off the members on here . 
the comments about none AK guns in use are rather puerile at best , the people who would need kit are the ones joining the territorial defence forces , if anyone can show me a picture of a single one of these patriots NOT armed with an AK I’ll happily say “sorry I’m wrong your right” .
Yes it is being done with the best intentions but sending your Chinese knock-off ‘glow in the dark’ multi-sham M4 plate carrier isn’t going to help neither is your Airsoft helmet(I’ve seen it happen for real , people send stuff to an emergency situation with the best intentions but the kit was just no use and ended up clogged up the logistics areas) . Good intentions are just that but these people are fighting for their very existence so if you’ve got quality multi-platform gear(good condition surplus gear/Blackhawk !/Eagle/crye/etc etc) to send then yes send it it certainly will help but if the kit you have and want to donate isn’t what they need then don’t send it and donate some money to the red cross instead .

simple as that really . 

 
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Cannonfodder said:
relatively new guy with a total of 4 posts
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Just dropped by to farm dopamine from virtue signalling about being the respectfulmost supporter of some pretty SSketchy characters, I guess.

If you do want to render some Russian conscript too terrified to pull the trigger at the sight of your Viper chest rig, I'd check out the local drop off points carefully.  The one nearest to me appears to be just a rando wanting to be given military surplus, but apparently has no plan to get it to Ukraine.  Bear in mind that Stephen Glennies exist.

 
Personally I disagree with sending any kit, the Ukrainian military has its own equipment (as well as what nato has supplied), the idea of sending pc's etc., irrespective of the brands, will be pointless if there's no armour to put in it. 

As for mag carrying, better of with a decent quality satchel or similar, the only real hope for the untrained volunteer masses will be harassment & interdiction, essentially hit & run, traditionally in history those that operate in this manner, the ability to blend in to the population afterwards will make more of a difference than just looking the part. 

Harsh when we're discussing "charitable donations" but true unfortunately ?

 
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