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Is UK airsoft losing steam?

I don't think airsoft is running out of steam. I think the manufacturers are. Each year it's what new M4's are they producing. If no one ever made another armalite there would be enough to go around for years to come. Maybe release the new latest furniture every now and then to fit the existing M4's. I wouldn't mind if there was real innovation but so much is the same gun and gearbox over and over again.

I'm thinking back to 2003ish when classic army exploded with a range of AK74's, G36's, Aug's, G3's, M249's, SR25's

TM were knocking out Sig 552's, M14's, M733's (an overhaul of the basic tooling) a revamped GBB system for pistols.

Chinese clones were cheap as chips and even they showed innovation and new models. I think one of the first HK416's was a JG. I'd take a thundermaul over yet another MK18 any day. 

Given the primary reason for airsoft guns was to get hold of accurate replicas of firearms I would like to see more variety from the manufacturers. It's all got a bit stale for me. 

I'm happy to keep playing and buying but there's not as much that excites me these days AEG wise. 

 
THE CHIEF said:
I don't think airsoft is running out of steam. I think the manufacturers are. Each year it's what new M4's are they producing. If no one ever made another armalite there would be enough to go around for years to come. Maybe release the new latest furniture every now and then to fit the existing M4's. I wouldn't mind if there was real innovation but so much is the same gun and gearbox over and over again.

I'm thinking back to 2003ish when classic army exploded with a range of AK74's, G36's, Aug's, G3's, M249's, SR25's

TM were knocking out Sig 552's, M14's, M733's (an overhaul of the basic tooling) a revamped GBB system for pistols.

Chinese clones were cheap as chips and even they showed innovation and new models. I think one of the first HK416's was a JG. I'd take a thundermaul over yet another MK18 any day. 

Given the primary reason for airsoft guns was to get hold of accurate replicas of firearms I would like to see more variety from the manufacturers. It's all got a bit stale for me. 

I'm happy to keep playing and buying but there's not as much that excites me these days AEG wise. 
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In the airsoft rif manufacturers defence, there is only a finite number of actual rs weapons to replicate…what exactly would you like to see that is yet to be turned into an airsoft rif?

Cannonfodder said:
As I've been visiting different sites and doing mid week games I've been to a few different cqb sites end one thing I have noticed is that many look like they're starting to crack down on some aspects of speedsoft, such as prefiring and spamming the trigger.

Did you guys play at Fort Amhurst donkeys years ago?
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Also what is meant by pre firing? Do you mean binary triggers?

 
Madhouse said:
What’s not helping are the amount of YT videos out there that give the wrong impression of what we do - it’s not kills every few seconds, everyone’s not a cheater and pews aren’t laser accurate.
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It doesn't help when sites llike Phoenix cater for twats like licking shitstains by setting up games specifically for them to generate bullshit content. For me this straight away puts them on the avoid list

@THE CHIEF whilst I agree that more variety of rifs would be nice, I think  alot of it is down to consumer demand.

Duff Beer said:
Yes @Cannonfodderwe did.  I was the marshal with the cutaway mask.  Have you seen the Fort these days?  They’ve cut down all the trees, turned the foxhole into an open air cinema, and gated off the chapel so you can’t walk through it.
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I thought I recognised the patch from there. I can't say the mask rings any bells, but it was nearly 20 years ago and sometimes I struggle to remember what I did last week.

I haven't been back since I last played there but tbh I'm not surprised it's changed so much. At least its been preserved though, rather than cleared for housing 

SBoardley said:
Also what is meant by pre firing? Do you mean binary triggers?
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Firing as you approach and go round a corner so if there is someone there you're already putting shots out rather than having to react. To me it's a twatish move which involves zero skill

 
SBoardley said:
In the airsoft rif manufacturers defence, there is only a finite number of actual rs weapons to replicate…what exactly would you like to see that is yet to be turned into an airsoft rif?
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Top of my head... a BREN gun, HK21, Owens gun, lewis gun, swedish K, M60E3 long and short...

Maybe based on the Cam870 an Ithaca M37 or spas 12

Based on the trishot AEG a usas12 

I know some have been done based on old technology like the TOP M60 or KTW M37. But they are not practical skirmish weapons. There's so many that haven't been touched. 

 
SBoardley said:
what exactly would you like to see that is yet to be turned into an airsoft rif?
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Let’s see:

Good Famas F1 or F2

Good Browning Hipower Mk III

GBB Mk23 Socom

FN2000

King Arms L1A1 (assuming they ever release it)

Instead we get Glock, Glock, AR, AK, AR, Glock, AR, AK, Glock, Glock, AR

When was the last time you saw anyone rocking a Famas at a site?  I know the last time I saw one, it was 2005.  

Still, I remember the times before the MP7’s were out so I can’t complain too much

 
THE CHIEF said:
Top of my head... a BREN gun, HK21, Owens gun, lewis gun, swedish K, M60E3 long and short...

Maybe based on the Cam870 an Ithaca M37 or spas 12

Based on the trishot AEG a usas12 

I know some have been done based on old technology like the TOP M60 or KTW M37. But they are not practical skirmish weapons. There's so many that haven't been touched. 
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I guess the obvious reply to that is that rifs based on obscure or obsolete weapons don’t appeal to a large enough market to warrant r&d and manufacture? Though an aps cam based spas gives me a bit of a boner. 

 
SBoardley said:
I guess the obvious reply to that is that rifs based on obscure or obsolete weapons don’t appeal to a large enough market to warrant r&d and manufacture? Though an aps cam based spas gives me a bit of a boner. 
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Sorry to say the spas is also obscure and obsolete these days. However... I would argue that any of the listed weapons would be collected and used. Especially in Japan. I bet a BREN and owens would sell well in America. 

 
Adolf Hamster said:
I love the look of it, but wasnt much of a fan shooting something that had less trigger feel than a dewalt.....
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Unless of course it's a DeWalt multitool.the trigger on that is phenomenal.?

 
A Famas F1 was my first AEG, I still remember buying it from a hobby shop in Edinburgh in 1995 ish, never realised how powerful it was and shot through a window at our farm. (lesson learnt).

The only F2 I've seen was a shitty one from BBguns4less. needless to say... I bought one to hang on the wall.

I guess consumer demand is what's popular & readily available, There are plenty of 'mature' collectors/skirmishers with disposable income that would warrant a limited run of a few thousand (worldwide) classics, personally I'd love an EM2 to skirmish with & there are plenty of other classics I'd love to own like an original style Calico, a multitude of WWII era affordable rif's and many many more.

 
Shamal said:
Unless of course it's a DeWalt multitool.the trigger on that is phenomenal.?
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was using a dewalt sds a few months back and i couldnt help but feel the resemblance to a vector :P

If we're talking guns we need more of we need some more old school stuff, nice m1 carbine (as an aeg that is) or sks.

 
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Adolf Hamster said:
was using a dewalt sds a few months back and i couldnt help but feel the resemblance to a vector :P

If we're talking guns we need more of we need some more old school stuff, nice m1 carbine (as an aeg that is) or sks.
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was using a dewalt sds a few months back and i couldnt help but feel the resemblance to a vector

Corded or cordless. Brushless gear is so much more usable?

Regards 

 
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