Help! IF came as RIF

[DrAlexanderTobacco]

Do they? If they book a game and never attend are they now committing a crime? Perhaps their intent when painting was to attend a game but after painting decided against it but luckily they painted it while intending to go a registered airsoft site so they have a defence and no longer need one because  there is no issue with owning a RIF that they now have.

These defences are not going to stop someone  getting arrested. As far as I am aware they can be arrested and then they present the defence in court but this has yet to happen so the judge could rule either way as it's very wishy washy and hard to  prove that you were going to attend an airsoft site.  Now is it likely you would be arrested? No in all honesty if you transport it in a bag and never have it on show in public view then your probably fine.

Say you do get caught somehow it's not like any criminal intends to get caught it happens occasionally the police get lucky then how would the police know it used to be a two tone anyway? How do they prove you painted it? Perhaps OP gets lifted for having his RIF out in public shooting at the local Zumba class for a laugh then they check his order and see it was an order for a two  tone gun but wait his gun isn't two tone. What an awful mess I bet the retailer won't own up to not painting it as that would be an offence for them to sell the RIF to someone without a defence so now how does OP prove he didn't paint it? 

I get it seems like I am splitting hairs but people should have all the information and make an informed decision instead of being told it's alright we aren't hurting anybody or  it's "legal" we have a "license". 

I think we can both agree that the legislation is bollocks and was hastily written - ultimately I'm glad a rough framework was at least enshrined in law, because when this was originally being drafted iirc there was no exemption in place for Airsofters and the sport/hobby was in serious trouble back in 2006. Somewhat before my time though!

This is largely an issue of semantics. The letter of the law essentially states that Airsoft/doing various things with RIFs is illegal, unless X and Y, in which case the Airsofter has a defense which can be used in court - de facto legal, and very close to de jure. Of course, this depends on untested legislation and no one really knows which way things will swing until there's a decent court case so I think you're right in (technically) saying it's not "legal" as such.

From this perspective, let's say this chap did indeed receive a two tone, instead of a proper RIF, and painted it so he could look cooler than cool at his next skirmish - Yeah I'd probably say "it's fine", and as GeorgePlaysAirsoft says it was mostly just a way to placate his (hopefully hot) mum

TBH would be really interesting to see a decent case hit the courts, just to see how things play out. I wouldn't wish it on the poor sod who had to go to court though, nor would I hope one actually goes to court just in case the hammer swings against us.

 

[Rogerborg]

I was speaking in plain english rather then legalese to help a guy reassure his mum

Sure, I get that.  Bear in mind that I stripped the two tone from my toys as soon as I got them due to being confident in having a defence, so my high horse is more of a Shetland pony.  You do have to be able to adduce that defence though, and I'm not sure that Stifler here could.

Not that he needs to, fortunately.

 

[Albiscuit]

Can we get back to the topic of pics of the mum in question please!!

 

[remus]

wonders if the mother was satisfied? if not you could have painted or masked up the gun to keep her happy as well (yes not legally required but yall know who lays down the law in a household...) then again I just have an urge to do a gritty but realistic bright paint jobby soon...

 

[Tommikka]

wonders if the mother was satisfied? if not you could have painted or masked up the gun to keep her happy as well (yes not legally required but yall know who lays down the law in a household...) then again I just have an urge to do a gritty but realistic bright paint jobby soon...

I haven’t been given contact details, so I am unable to confirm if she has been satisfied

But the OP has managed to show her sufficient evidence from this thread and the legislation so that she is happy that he has not pulled a fast one on her and that no offence has been committed 

 

[CrackCommandoUnit1972]

My mums favourite gun is the FN FAL.

 

[Tackle]

My mums favourite gun is the FN FAL.

Any pics ?

 

[Tommikka]

My mums favourite gun is the FN FAL.

My mother preferred nukes

Any pics ?

yes

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[Rogerborg]

My mums favourite gun is the FN FAL.

Something something big black and with a huge kick something.

My mother preferred nukes

Here, the soldier moves to the required 10' minimum safe distance before triggering his nukular bazooka that has a 1 mile range and a 2 mile radiation radius.

 

[Tommikka]

Something something big black and with a huge kick something.



Here, the soldier moves to the required 10' minimum safe distance before triggering his nukular bazooka that has a 1 mile range and a 2 mile radiation radius.

Those short range nukes were mental.  
I believe that my dads lot had some form of access to them back in the day.

Ridiculous, but the general consensus in his young squaddie days was that the front line of BAOR were dead anyway, it was just a matter of how quickly and whether they could keep back the Russian hordes long enough for someone to react.

It subsequently became a matter of if you could detect missiles quickly enough to launch your missiles back and protection through M.A.D.

SLR wise, wood beats black plastic, but mine is built with the black plastic (not real bullets of course)

Even with ‘basic’ launchers the initial launch blasts won’t do you a lot of good if you’re behind it.

I got to visit some trials and during the dry run I was given a cheeky grin with regard to me being stood right behind him, then it became pretty clear once being sent to the safe spot for the real thing

Gits wouldn’t let me have a go

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[Tackle]

Those short range nukes were mental.  
I believe that my dads lot had some form of access to them back in the day.

Ridiculous, but the general consensus in his young squaddie days was that the front line of BAOR were dead anyway, it was just a matter of how quickly and whether they could keep back the Russian hordes long enough for someone to react.

It subsequently became a matter of if you could detect missiles quickly enough to launch your missiles back and protection through M.A.D.

SLR wise, wood beats black plastic, but mine is built with the black plastic (not real bullets of course)

Lol, my lot always had a battalion in Germany, ready to "irritate" the millions of Soviets that were expected to pour across the borders, it was obviously gonna be a suicide mission but somehow we were "up for it", how's that for brainwashing ?

 

[Tommikka]

Lol, my lot always had a battalion in Germany, ready to "irritate" the millions of Soviets that were expected to pour across the borders, it was obviously gonna be a suicide mission but somehow we were "up for it", how's that for brainwashing ?

Yellow handbags & loose German women

Both good for morale

 

[Tackle]

Yellow handbags & loose German women

Both good for morale

Lol, if it weren't for the good beer we'd have probably deserted ?

 

[Steveocee]

i play about... 1.5 times a month, ish.

Can you clarify for me whether that .5 is you playing half a day or whether it is playing a full day with sub-minimal effort?

 

[GeorgePlaysAirsoft]

Can you clarify for me whether that .5 is you playing half a day or whether it is playing a full day with sub-minimal effort?

Sometimes I skirmish twice a month, sometimes once, and sometimes none at all. Ish. Hope that clarifies things!