Gelsoft

[Tommikka]

Well if it hits your lower mesh it's going to go through it... same with mesh eye pro.

Unlikely to be at a velocity that is dangerous however impurities or dirt in the projectile could be carried through. I know they use mesh in AUS but there is a huge difference between being hit by a projectile you expect and one that you've not prepared for. Like Nerf I suspect that these would be compatible with airsoft sites but not necessarily players without explicit consent.

I have a solution - ban mesh

... and while we're at it add full face ...

Or more realistically, mesh meets airsoft eye protection requirements (not safe as far as I'm concerned, but they meet the standards and its up to sites & their insurers)

The gel / water mix burst from a gel ball is not going to be good for an eye behind mesh. 

I've taken paint from numerous paintballs into my mouth, and have also had indirect paint in my eye through netting - burst from an indirect hit with some distance from the netting was not comfortable.

A direct mesh hit into the eye risks damage.

Airsoft, paintball and gellsoft are similar but they are sufficiently different.

For gelsoft I would need to know the impact of a gelball or  feel a hit to consider whether full face is necessary  (I'd generally always recommend full face!)

It makes sense that if mediums were mixed then the highest protection standard would be required 

 

[rj1986]

That's what I'm thinking.  If it comes down to a choice between laser-tag, nerf, or gel, I know which one I'd opt for.  Not imminent, just steeling myself for the future.

I would like to think if laser tag became mainstream, we could get the blank firing versions as well - or something that uses primers or .22 blank

 

[Rogerborg]

I think laser tech could be the future. iCombat system is quite cool

And no eyepro.

Wait...

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frangible paintballs keeps them safe on lethality.  This frangibility / non lethality  has been backed up in recent years with formal testing of First Strike shaped projectiles

We could just mandate that everyone uses 0.2g Blasters...

 

[Monkeywrencher]

 I'm confused by some of these, how is this not covered by the same rules as an airsoft P90?

https://gelsoft.co.uk/gelsoft-p90x-56/gelsoft-p90x.html

 

[Rogerborg]

 I'm confused by some of these, how is this not covered by the same rules as an airsoft P90?

https://gelsoft.co.uk/gelsoft-p90x-56/gelsoft-p90x.html

That's a RIF, there is no reasonable argument to be made to the contrary. As far as I can see, it's only airsoft sellers who care about the VCRA, or at least make a token effort to pretend to.  I hope that'll be enough to protect us when the hammer falls on chancers like that.

 

[DrAlexanderTobacco]

 I'm confused by some of these, how is this not covered by the same rules as an airsoft P90?

https://gelsoft.co.uk/gelsoft-p90x-56/gelsoft-p90x.html

It is imo, the law doesn't care about the sport or discipline, just whether the public would consider something an imitation or realistic imitation firearm. IMO this meets that criteria.

Gelsoft's low public awareness is probably why they think they're able to get away with it.

 

[Monkeywrencher]

That site also clearly states that you do not need to be 18 to purchase, Even the grafiti version of their blasters are no less IF's than a bright blue scar, if it comes down to it I wouldn't expect these to survive anything that gaets airsoft completely banned.

 Which body is responsible for enforcing the ruls with regarg to IF/RIF sales rules?

 

[Rogerborg]

That site also clearly states that you do not need to be 18 to purchase,

I can only find this:

"Do I have to be over 18?

No, GelSoft guns are not replica weapons and they are safe for everyone to use."

Which is almost worse, as it's encouraging kids to run around with them in public.  They should have a big blinking warning up about Firearms Act Section 19 possession in public, which applies to all imitations, realistic or otherwise.

Scotch case law has seen a chap charged and convicted for possession of this monstrosity:

Even the grafiti version of their blasters are no less IF's than a bright blue scar, if it comes down to it I wouldn't expect these to survive anything that gaets airsoft completely banned.

 Which body is responsible for enforcing the ruls with regarg to IF/RIF sales rules?

The police, it's a criminal offence.

However, Trading Standards could and should stamp on their P90, hopefully for their sake without criminal sanctions - but it's their risk, and they should know better.  It seems that they used to have a black RIF Uzi that they've canned now, but most people seeing that P90 (without day-glo ammo in it) would think firearm.