First CQB RIF, need advice

[tasum]

Bit late to the party, but although you require a ris rail for a foregrip, I have the wildhog 7" and have a keymod to ris rail then the foregrip mounted on that. I also have a keymod foregrip, which can be used without the extra rail.

Could be worth looking at non-ris railed rifles if they fit your other requirements. I love the wildhog. Very solid build and very accurate. Full "metal". They do  9" if you need more rial space. I paid about £180 for mine and it runs very well on a 11.1 lipo with a great rate of fire and is cqb legal. Uses m4 mags, mosfet and can be easily programmed via the trigger to replace the full auto with 3 round burst.

It has the better internals than the entry level cm16 and the next version up, so shouldn't need any mods. Depends on what you want to spend and whether you want something real steel equivalent. I know the m4 style rifles are similar to real steel, but I understand the difference if that's something that's important to you. 

I do like that sig though. Good luck with your search.

 

[jacko92]

Have you played much of those to date?

You'll be sticking tight to cover and doing a lot of peek-and-pew.  For that purpose, I reckon an MP5K or MP7 is ideal (or a P90, Škorpion, or the uck fugly Mac 10), without adding pieces of furniture on.  Heck, you could run a pistol primary effectively.

The only cqb I've done is bunkers or lone buildings, but nothing that is primarily cqb, in those cases I just switch to my pistol. 

So a MP5k or MP7 is what I'm after cause I like stability, something with a stock, yet short enough barrel to pivot corners easier. 

At the same time if I can find a short barreled m4 varient system that can be used for the field and cqb, that would be great. 

Bit late to the party, but although you require a ris rail for a foregrip, I have the wildhog 7" and have a keymod to ris rail then the foregrip mounted on that. I also have a keymod foregrip, which can be used without the extra rail.

Could be worth looking at non-ris railed rifles if they fit your other requirements. I love the wildhog. Very solid build and very accurate. Full "metal". They do  9" if you need more rial space. I paid about £180 for mine and it runs very well on a 11.1 lipo with a great rate of fire and is cqb legal. Uses m4 mags, mosfet and can be easily programmed via the trigger to replace the full auto with 3 round burst.

It has the better internals than the entry level cm16 and the next version up, so shouldn't need any mods. Depends on what you want to spend and whether you want something real steel equivalent. I know the m4 style rifles are similar to real steel, but I understand the difference if that's something that's important to you. 

I do like that sig though. Good luck with your search.

 You get quite along for £180, I might give that a look in a bit. The reason I say a ris rail for a grip is because all day holding your weapon with a horizontal handgrip causes me cramps in my wrist haha although it is better for stability . A foregrip gives me better manoeuvrability. 

Im not too bothered about material or it feels like the real thing. As long as its sturdy and doesn't flex. 

 

[tasum]

The only cqb I've done is bunkers or lone buildings, but nothing that is primarily cqb, in those cases I just switch to my pistol. 

So a MP5k or MP7 is what I'm after cause I like stability, something with a stock, yet short enough barrel to pivot corners easier. 

At the same time if I can find a short barreled m4 varient system that can be used for the field and cqb, that would be great. 

 You get quite along for £180, I might give that a look in a bit. The reason I say a ris rail for a grip is because all day holding your weapon with a horizontal handgrip causes me cramps in my wrist haha although it is better for stability . A foregrip gives me better manoeuvrability. 

Im not too bothered about material or it feels like the real thing. As long as its sturdy and doesn't flex. 

This is my setup. Removed the noise enhancer for a stubby mod. Cheap T1 clone, protector and a mobius mount. Still very light and pointable.

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[Rogerborg]

cause I like stability, something with a stock

Depending on the site and how you're going to play it, I'd value quick aimability over stability in indoors CQB with a lot of cover and angles.  I find myself having to radically adjust aim in CQB a lot more than keeping it steady.  To the extent that I always ran my M4 with the stock right in, and eventually just hacksawed the whole stock tube off and front wired it.  I'd never run another gun with a stock in CQB.

This is coming across as a bit ranty zealot, but that's not my intention, just to throw some alternative ideas out there.  I'd suggest that you try the site with your current gun before investing in something else, and see if you can blag a go on a variety of platforms while you're there to find out what works for you.

 

[jacko92]

This is my setup. Removed the noise enhancer for a stubby mod. Cheap T1 clone, protector and a mobius mount. Still very light and pointable.

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That is pretty, off topic them mobius action cams any good? 

Depending on the site and how you're going to play it, I'd value quick aimability over stability in indoors CQB with a lot of cover and angles.  I find myself having to radically adjust aim in CQB a lot more than keeping it steady.  To the extent that I always ran my M4 with the stock right in, and eventually just hacksawed the whole stock tube off and front wired it.  I'd never run another gun with a stock in CQB.

This is coming across as a bit ranty zealot, but that's not my intention, just to throw some alternative ideas out there.  I'd suggest that you try the site with your current gun before investing in something else, and see if you can blag a go on a variety of platforms while you're there to find out what works for you.

Yeah I get your point. You need to be able to rotate the weapon and not having a stock helps. So maybe what I need is something with a fully retractable stock of folding stock. Cause I do prefer a stock, I like it pinned in my shoulder and being able to support the weapon when aiming 

 

[tasum]

Depending on the site and how you're going to play it, I'd value quick aimability over stability in indoors CQB with a lot of cover and angles.  I find myself having to radically adjust aim in CQB a lot more than keeping it steady.  To the extent that I always ran my M4 with the stock right in, and eventually just hacksawed the whole stock tube off and front wired it.  I'd never run another gun with a stock in CQB.

This is coming across as a bit ranty zealot, but that's not my intention, just to throw some alternative ideas out there.  I'd suggest that you try the site with your current gun before investing in something else, and see if you can blag a go on a variety of platforms while you're there to find out what works for you.

Very good advice. You never know what may feel right. Something like an arp9 with a drum mag may feel more stable, but less pointable than a pistol, but then again, the advantage of the extra bbs may be more suitable to you. Try as many as you can before you decide. Or be ready to buy many guns lol