firearms ban after prison

[clarky2343]

Hang on guys, im friends with him still because he is actually innocent of the crime for which he has been convicted. I know the ins and outs of the case and I was someone he called as a witness, I would seem that for anyone convicted of a sexual offence then in is guilty untill you can prove you are innocent as is the case with every other offence so dont think the UK "justice system" is perfect as it convicts people where evidence and common sense says the person is innocent.

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Hang on guys, im friends with him still because he is actually innocent of the crime for which he has been convicted. I know the ins and outs of the case and I was someone he called as a witness, I would seem that for anyone convicted of a sexual offence then in is guilty untill you can prove you are innocent as is the case with every other offence so dont think the UK "justice system" is perfect as it convicts people where evidence and common sense says the person is innocent.

Can I be first to say convicted so bollocks

 

[E21A]

How was he convicted without evidence? 

 

[clarky2343]

ok well that is your view, but you can be convicted of something if you are innocent

How was he convicted without evidence? 

the evidence from the "victim" didnt add up and contradicted itself on every level where as my friend was consistant all through his evidence

 

[E21A]

So why was he convicted?? 

 

[clarky2343]

Because as is evident through some of the comments on here anyone accused of a sexual offence must be 100% guilty and the courts would prefer to convict 100 innocent people to catch one person who is guilty

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Because as is evident through some of the comments on here anyone accused of a sexual offence must be 100% guilty and the courts would prefer to convict 100 innocent people to catch one person who is guilty

Wrong because people get accused every day but still walk out of court.

Chances of a mistake with current forensic tests are unlikely, possible but slim.  It is more likely your friend is guilty and you sticking up for him is offensive to any rational person.

So was he a rapist or paedophile?

 

[xWebster]

@clarky2343 Welcome to the forums! what a warm welcome you've had from everyone else

 

[CarloBear]

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[E21A]

Because as is evident through some of the comments on here anyone accused of a sexual offence must be 100% guilty and the courts would prefer to convict 100 innocent people to catch one person who is guilty

He he wasn’t just accused though, you told us he was convicted??? 

So comments are based on a conviction! 

So was he a rapist or paedophile?

?

 

[Tackle]

Some of you need to wind yer necks in, Clarky has been upfront & honest about his friends predicament, I too disliked the fact that his friend is a "convicted sex offender", & like many of you be judge/jury/executioner on some of the nonces that come to light via the press etc, but the truth is not all of these cases are cut & dried, every day guilty people go free & good guys get locked up.

Something similar happened to a friend, convicted & then a two year fight at horrendous cost to eventually clear his name, during which time he couldn't even live in his own home because his accuser lived in the same area.

& what do you think happened to his scummy lying accuser, or the inept lazy coppers that "investigated" the case.......fuck all that's what  

 

[clarky2343]

well you have to be first accused to be then convicted, and he was convicted of grooming even though the "victim" had lied about her age to him and during the trial it emerged that the "victim" had lied to other guys on numerous occasions in the past

Some of you need to wind yer necks in, Clarky has been upfront & honest about his friends predicament, I too disliked the fact that his friend is a "convicted sex offender", & like many of you be judge/jury/executioner on some of the nonces that come to light via the press etc, but the truth is not all of these cases are cut & dried, every day guilty people go free & good guys get locked up.

Something similar happened to a friend, convicted & then a two year fight at horrendous cost to eventually clear his name, during which time he couldn't even live in his own home because his accuser lived in the same area.

& what do you think happened to his scummy lying accuser, or the inept lazy coppers that "investigated" the case.......fuck all that's what  

Amen to you Tackle it happens to too many cases that the real guilty wronguns go free where as the ones who are actually innocent most of the time get locked away

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

well you have to be first accused to be then convicted, and he was convicted of grooming even though the "victim" had lied about her age to him and during the trial it emerged that the "victim" had lied to other guys on numerous occasions in the past

Sorry so your friend is a convicted paedo then and not just opportunistic but a groomer. If there was any proof your friend believed the victim to be of legal age he wouldn't of been convicted.

Sorry but judge and jury had enough evidence to commit so paedo it is.

Some of you need to wind yer necks in, Clarky has been upfront & honest about his friends predicament, I too disliked the fact that his friend is a "convicted sex offender", & like many of you be judge/jury/executioner on some of the nonces that come to light via the press etc, but the truth is not all of these cases are cut & dried, every day guilty people go free & good guys get locked up.

Something similar happened to a friend, convicted & then a two year fight at horrendous cost to eventually clear his name, during which time he couldn't even live in his own home because his accuser lived in the same area.

& what do you think happened to his scummy lying accuser, or the inept lazy coppers that "investigated" the case.......fuck all that's what  

Yeah because prisons are full of innocents. Mistakes can happen but rare. I believe in the justice system way more than a guy sticking up for his convicted paedo mate.

 

[The broadsman]

Maybe he should be spending the time clearing his name, if he is indeed innocent as you say rather than finding out if he can play airsoft. If his offence was involving a minor then id tell him to go swivel on moral grounds, airsofting involves many youngsters.

I can see what Tackle is saying though, so clear his name he must if he is innocent.

 

[Tackle]

Sorry but judge and jury had enough evidence to commit so paedo it is.

What part of my last post did you not get ?, the system is still heavily biased towards the "victims" in these cases, even if said "victims" are manipulative lying scheming cnuts with previous, yet the system insists every case has to be judged on a standalone basis when it comes to the victim, & unfortunately the average joe blogs on the street can't fund the legal fight needed to correct this bias after a skewed conviction, it would be the equivalent of handing  over your home & your earnings for the next 20-25 years, I shit you not.

my mate was lucky, if you can call it that  , in that as a "superstar dj", he had amassed enough wealth to appeal the conviction, it still had a terrible affect on him, I know for a fact he considered suicide more than once, he considered his life to be over.

to all, spiteful ignorant comments will change nowt, other than alienate the op & probably discourage others to be honest & upfront when it comes to discussing awkward scenarios that may or may not have a tenuous link to our "sport".

 

[clarky2343]

he is currently getting a team of solicitors to try and clear his name but he wants to start playing airsoft again now and was wondering wether the firearms ban would stop him

 

[warlord]

I'd think spending money on airsoft is probably the least wise use of his funds and should probably direct it to his legal team.

 

[clarky2343]

He is though wanted to play a few games if he could in mean time

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

What part of my last post did you not get ?, the system is still heavily biased towards the "victims" in these cases, even if said "victims" are manipulative lying scheming cnuts with previous, yet the system insists every case has to be judged on a standalone basis when it comes to the victim, & unfortunately the average joe blogs on the street can't fund the legal fight needed to correct this bias after a skewed conviction, it would be the equivalent of handing  over your home & your earnings for the next 20-25 years, I shit you not.

my mate was lucky, if you can call it that  , in that as a "superstar dj", he had amassed enough wealth to appeal the conviction, it still had a terrible affect on him, I know for a fact he considered suicide more than once, he considered his life to be over.

to all, spiteful ignorant comments will change nowt, other than alienate the op & probably discourage others to be honest & upfront when it comes to discussing awkward scenarios that may or may not have a tenuous link to our "sport".

I got all your post and yes maybe your friend was innocent but that is what 1 in how many thousands?

I am glad in cases of paedophilia the system is skewed towards the victim as that is how it should be. 

By the sounds of it his mate did the deed then tried to say she lied about her age like how many other paedos?

He is a convicted paedo and I say again a judge and jury convicted and that holds more weight than his mate. To be fair any friend of mine was convicted of grooming I would do him over myself. 

You are on here banging on just because you say your mate got done and if he was innocent then he has my sympathy. But just because you know one person does not mean the justice system always gets it wrong.

Convicted paedo done for grooming is enough for me to say burn in hell after a fucking slow death. 

As a parent it makes me sick to think anyone can take the side of these scum.

 

[clarky2343]

nooo triggerhappy he didnt have sex or anything of the sort with her, he mearly spoke to her online