Enforced BB weight limit

[Colin Allen]

Why keep bringing it up? Your point is null on this place, as we aren't using steel bb's. Inferring otherwise is just plain moronic.

He isn't inferring that we are using steel BBs; he is using a form of Socratic questioning.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Then it should be extremely trivial to remind us why we don't we shoot each other with steel BBs.

I'd argue its because it'd be hard to get enough spin to get them flying any usable range at acceptable joule levels.

That and they's scratch up your barrel.

 

[Tommikka]

I'd argue its because it'd be hard to get enough spin to get them flying any usable range at acceptable joule levels.

That and they's scratch up your barrel.

Or perhaps because you would be firing an air weapon at a person and not playing airsoft skirmishing ?

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Or perhaps because you would be firing an air weapon at a person and not playing airsoft skirmishing ?

Is that defined by the ammo material or the muzzle energy?

In the humerous scenario that a steel bb could be made to float along with sub 1.3j of kinetic energy.

 

[Tommikka]

Is that defined by the ammo material or the muzzle energy?

In the humerous scenario that a steel bb could be made to float along with sub 1.3j of kinetic energy.

Airsoft is exempted from the firearms

act under the section 57a amendment which requires a plastic BB and be within 1.2 joules / 2.5 joules - approx 8 joules / 

A metal BB would no longer have the firearms act exemption, and therefore be an air weapon

If still below 1.2 / 2.5 joules then it would be a low powered air weapon (within 6 ft lbs / 12 ft lbs - approx 8 / 12 joules)

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/27/section/57A#:~:text=[F157AException for airsoft,the purposes of this Act.&text=(b)is not capable of,that exceeds the permitted level.&text=(c)does not exceed 8 millimetres in diameter.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

So impractical and illegal. For clarity i'm not suggesting we sling steel beyond a hypothetical discussion about hovering super heavy ammo at stupid low speeds.

Indeed on a more real-world scenario i would argue that a 1j field slinging .48's would be better than a 1.3j field slinging 0.12's, as only one of those has the potential to lay down more than 1j of owchie no matter how close you get.

Although it strikes me we are riding a tangent away from the original point about limiting ammo weights, which is nominally to stop pews going above the site limit.

 

[GiantKiwi]

The entire argument most sites have for it is entirely born out of ignorance/laziness/or both of joule creep. There are some sites up in the North that have had the kneejerk reaction to have wildly different energy limits for GBBR/HPA vs AEGs out of that same ignorance.

Chrono people with the weights they're going to use, and it mitigates most of the risks, anyone who is found in breach, eject them permanently. Simples.

Next to nobody is going to be running 0.36+ in an AEG, as its too fucking expensive to spray them willy nilly. A 0.36+g bb does negligible difference in material damage at 1.2J vs a 0.2g, despite anyones blustering about it.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

There are some sites up in the North that have had the kneejerk reaction to have wildly different energy limits for GBBR/HPA vs AEGs out of that same ignorance.

That at least in theory would level the playing field.

Assuming that all gas/hpa pews creep the same amount, and that with the players chosen game weight coincides exactly with the aeg limit in every instance.

Which you will never know if you don't, y'know:

Chrono people with the weights they're going to use

Because the best case is you're arbitrarily giving gas/hpa users an energy handicap whilst leaving the possibility they might still be over.

Next to nobody is going to be running 0.36+ in an AEG, as its too fucking expensive to spray them willy nilly

No comment....?

 

[Rogerborg]

we aren't using steel bb's

Sounds irrational, we should switch to them as I hear there's no downside.

 

[Tommikka]

Sounds irrational, we should switch to them as I hear there's no downside.

People would take their hits 

 

[GiantKiwi]

Sounds irrational, we should switch to them as I hear there's no downside.

Please just stop. Ignored.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Sounds irrational, we should switch to them as I hear there's no downside.

Arguably lead would be better, its natural, softer and has even higher density.

At 1.3j though you'd need to show up a day early to get the shooting done then show up the next to see if anyone hit you