Do NOT buy from Flapjack

[Undieing_Lust]

[SIZE=10.5pt](Sorry mods if this is in the wrong section. I wasn't sure if I should put it here or the feedback section.)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Do NOT buy from Flapjack. A couple of days ago I bought off of him an ICS M4 here is the picture of the gun I thought I was getting.)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://postimg.org/image/h5i1bbc7t/[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Please note the Surefire flash hider. Which did not come with the gun. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The gun was sold to me as being serviced (Shimmed, AOE corrected, greased) and It was to arrive without the scope and a Magpul foregrip. As I don't have UKARA to prove that I am airsofter when It was being shipped, I asked him to paint it 51% blue which he did because of having to paint it he said that he could not accept returns and asked the money to be send via gift. I agreed, He then posted it out to me. It arrived today, here is the gun I actually got. (Sorry for being so pic heavy...)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://s23.postimg.org/wm48cgg4b/DSC_0116.jpg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://s30.postimg.org/vt18d509t/DSC_0117.jpg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://s7.postimg.org/ftg3okmvf/DSC_0119.jpg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://s1.postimg.org/bj9xrjmkf/DSC_0120.jpg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://s7.postimg.org/dq5ogwn2j/DSC_0121.jpg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://s17.postimg.org/4woscur67/DSC_0122.jpg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://s13.postimg.org/uc5evdqnb/DSC_0123.jpg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://s17.postimg.org/duip1oydr/DSC_0124.jpg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://s10.postimg.org/qzxjwp3cp/DSC_0118.jpg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://s11.postimg.org/8am2bgpub/DSC_0125.jpg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://s28.postimg.org/cls2e2eql/DSC_0126.jpg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://s14.postimg.org/6mk0q0ebl/DSC_0127.jpg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://s4.postimg.org/u2vdo2125/DSC_0128.jpg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://s2.postimg.org/y8m06ptix/DSC_0129.jpg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]http://s9.postimg.org/vcei5vw1b/DSC_0131.jpg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]· [/SIZE][SIZE=12pt]The Surefire flash hider is not on the barrel. Just a standard A2 birdcage[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]· [/SIZE][SIZE=12pt]The AoE has not be corrected like described I can tell by the second to last tooth on the piston still being in place and not removed. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]· [/SIZE][SIZE=12pt]The trigger contacts are badly burned. (Hard to see from picture but easy IRL)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]· [/SIZE][SIZE=12pt]The lower gearbox is swimming in grease. As well as the upper gearbox missing a screw.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]· [/SIZE][SIZE=12pt]The upper and lower receivers are badly scratched. Which is not visible from the picture and was not described in the description.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]· [/SIZE][SIZE=12pt]The butt pad is starting to fall apart on the stock being held on at the bottom by glue.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]· [/SIZE][SIZE=12pt]The hop up spring is bent.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]· [/SIZE][SIZE=12pt]The screws on the picatinny rail on the upper receiver are striped [/SIZE]

 

[DEDSEC]

Thank goodness I didn't trade my recoil shock with him then. Messaged me several times trying to trade my TM for an M4. Luckily I wasn't after an M4 otherwise we'd both be victims I think.

 

[Undieing_Lust]

Just shot the gun. It only fires on Full-Auto. Semi just fires full...

 

[Josh95]

but its ok to sell dud guns to other people dedsec

 

[Undieing_Lust]

Thank goodness I didn't trade my recoil shock with him then. Messaged me several times trying to trade my TM for an M4. Luckily I wasn't after an M4 otherwise we'd both be victims I think.

Agreed good thing you didnt...Am just pissed at myself that I sent him the money as a gift. Rather than just backing out. Anyway you think I could get it back?

 

[PT247]

looks like all he does is sell guns on here, couldn't see any posts except for his ads.

 

[PT247]

where is he from?

 

[DEDSEC]

Agreed good thing you didnt...Am just pissed at myself that I sent him the money as a gift. Rather than just backing out. Anyway you think I could get it back?

Well I'm most likely wrong here, but isn't this fraud? Because technically speaking, fraud is an act of deception intended for personal gain or to cause a loss to another party. So if I am correct, you can take this further with the authorities. Best to message him saying you want a refund otherwise you'll take the matter further. He didn't describe the item as what it really is, and has essentially scammed you.

If I'm wrong please correct me. If I am right, message him to get a refund and if he refuses, take matters further.

 

[Undieing_Lust]

where is he from?

Dublin Ireland.

 

[DX115FALCON]

First, that was a really scummy move on his end. HOWEVER, as stated in the rules, you should always be suspicious when someone asks for cash to be gifted.

 

[Undieing_Lust]

Well I'm most likely wrong here, but isn't this fraud? Because technically speaking, fraud is an act of deception intended for personal gain or to cause a loss to another party. So if I am correct, you can take this further with the authorities. Best to message him saying you want a refund otherwise you'll take the matter further. He didn't describe the item as what it really is, and has essentially scammed you.

If I'm wrong please correct me. If I am right, message him to get a refund and if he refuses, take matters further.

I messaged him and no response I haven't heard anything from him. Last message was the 18th.

 

[Undieing_Lust]

First, that was a really scummy move on his end. HOWEVER, as stated in the rules, you should always be suspicious when someone asks for cash to be gifted.

Agreed thats why am pissed at myself...

 

[DEDSEC]

I messaged him and no response I haven't heard anything from him. Last message was the 18th.

Right well he was online earlier today... Obviously just ignoring you as he knows he's just plain and simple ripped you off. I'd say get the moderators to try get him to talk. Once he's talking (if he does) try smoothing things out first before launching threats his way. If he refuses to deal with it then again, IF I was correct in saying that's fraud, get the authorities involved.

 

[Undieing_Lust]

I will give him time to replay to my message. If he doesn't I will then ask the mods on my behalf. I will take it form there.

 

[DEDSEC]

I will give him time to replay to my message. If he doesn't I will then ask the mods on my behalf. I will take it form there.

Can I also make a suggestion? Post this post, pictures included onto ZeroIn. He's just as active on there as he is on here. Best to let people know.

 

[Sitting Duck]

Socom - but re regged ??

 

[Samurai]

Real name would be useful too. He will just create a new account and continue to scam people. But I don't actually know if you are allowed to do that.

 

[Undieing_Lust]

I have his name on PayPal. But I wouldn't becuse it would be braking the law to my knowledge. And I wouldn't out of decency.

 

[Undieing_Lust]

Socom - but re regged ??

Know him?

 

[Cheeky vimto]

Doubt you'll get your money back as you gifted. That's how paypal make money, charging protection of both parties. When you gift it paypal makes no profit on that so you risk it all.

How much did it cost?