Boston bombings

[SheriffHD]

Thats the thing that I cant understand, they education system seems so much better. How is it that they still end up full retarded.

 

[Tariq]

Thats the thing that I cant understand, they education system seems so much better. How is it that they still end up full retarded.

That's / their / retarded?

 

[SheriffHD]

That's / their / retarded?

......fuck you lol.

But my point stands. British education is down the drain, yet we when compared to our American brothers who have a much better education system they fail just as hard as we do.

 

[Airsoft-Ed]

Yeah I think about this a lot. If us, America, Japan etc are supposed to be the most intelligent nations on earth, I can't believe there even are any other countries. Everyone living everywhere else must be almost too stupid to breathe if the "intelligent" nations are as dim as they are.

It's honestly frightening lol.

 

[Zak Da Mack]

Also, only in America can you have a defence budget higher than their spending on education. That says it all

Also, they have the second highest percentage of child poverty in an industrialised country

 

[remus]

i wondered as well and currently think they are taught better, but they re taught information, not logic and how to reason, which we do learn in a way due to our shoddy education... and that socially we openly infront of people tell them when they said something stupid where as americans go around it, which sometimes really dosent help anyone. least thats how im currently seeing it, but theres probably more to it than that...

 

[SheriffHD]

Remus, I think in this day and age, no one gets taught logic/reason/common sense because they are thought to already have it. needless to say, with the amount of retarded lawsuits and obvious warning labels we see every day, common sense is far from common these days.

 

[scorpia4]

Justin bieber is canadian... : | also pigs are illegal in Muslim country's that's why they're so mad cause they can't get bacon, or pork, or drink alcobooze

 

[Tariq]

Also pigs are illegal in Muslim country's that's why they're so mad cause they can't get bacon, or pork, or drink alcobooze

They're really not.

Where do people get these facts from? Their mate down the pub???

No pig products or alcohol allowed to be consumed, as stated in the Quran; the same in the Torah and the Bible.

Only difference is most Christians like to change the Bible to how THEY see fit and then call them selves devout... (which explains 'Merica)

 

[Nickona]

But then again they are ignoring Leviticus so one can assume its a fairly good thing

IMO its good if people can change their holy books as they are often written 1000's of years ago and so are fairly outdated to say the least... similar advantages to having an uncodified constitution as it can easy be changed to suit the times

 

[Tariq]

In one sense, yes that works.

However in the sense of the religion and "the holy books are God's words" (well, apart from the bible directly) changing them implies that you are better than God, and your changes are better. Sticking with the times isn't necessarily right. If everyone one is sinning, why change the rules so its OK now???

Saying that a religion is outdated though is a bit silly however. Yes it was written during a time when people were poor and the rich people were the ones with the most goats, however apply some thought to the holy books and they still make perfect sense to modern life. The ignorant take scriptures at face value...

From a moden Athiest view, they may seem outdated which is a fair argument Taking views on homosexuality for example. Yes they don't accommodate, but from a religious view, the majority of people going against your values doesn't mean you must change to suit those.

I still don't get the debate on gay bishops trying to get credited. They do realise they have to preach anti-homo-sexuality right?

Anyway this is really off topic for an airsoft forum

 

[Nickona]

I see what you mean about gods word but there are many things that a lot of people accept should be changed as we now know far more about the world then we did before. But there are also things that have been changed for the worse or interpreted incorrectly

Its not silly saying its outdated, everything gets outdated eventually and it is now commonly accepted that the world was not made in 7 days or Adam and Eve etc etc, the fact there are two contrasting reasons kinda signals something!

Yes there are some important stories that one can take lessons from but that doesn't mean the whole thing is valid.

I'm not saying people should change their views but rather be more acceoting, however, it is important to note that tollerance is a two way street and the rights of one group should not be increased so much it takes away the rights of another.

A gay bishop wouldn't necessarily preach homophobic lessons but would more likely argue things have changed, what you're suggesting there is that every Christian and every Christian interpretation of the Bible is homophobic which is very wrong

 

[Tariq]

I see what you mean about gods word but there are many things that a lot of people accept should be changed as we now know far more about the world then we did before. But there are also things that have been changed for the worse or interpreted incorrectly

Its not silly saying its outdated, everything gets outdated eventually and it is now commonly accepted that the world was not made in 7 days or Adam and Eve etc etc, the fact there are two contrasting reasons kinda signals something!

Yes there are some important stories that one can take lessons from but that doesn't mean the whole thing is valid.

I'm not saying people should change their views but rather be more acceoting, however, it is important to note that tollerance is a two way street and the rights of one group should not be increased so much it takes away the rights of another.

A gay bishop wouldn't necessarily preach homophobic lessons but would more likely argue things have changed, what you're suggesting there is that every Christian and every Christian interpretation of the Bible is homophobic which is very wrong

Acceptance within society, and within the religion is 2 different things.

Can't really speak for other religions but Islam itself teaches to accept and respect other people's decisions and choices within society,

Someone who really doesn't believe in a religion's teachings wouldn't really join that religion. However you shouldn't have to completely change your religion for others to accept you.

Also 7 days is only a christian view. Judaism and Islam note 7 stages of creation. Its the amount of times it's been changed, the meanings have eventually changed in the bible. Islam also talks about the big bang and atoms. Over 1000 years before they were scientifically talked about.

Not all religion can be "disproved" by science. Science is only correct until the next person comes along to disprove it. Even by scientific solutions, evolution is still a theory, as it is the most logical thing that has a chance of being proven. Darwin didn't even fully support his ideas about this. Not that most religions even disprove evolution by cause of a God anyway.

 

[Zak Da Mack]

what you're suggesting there is that every Christian and every Christian interpretation of the Bible is homophobic which is very wrong

Unless you're westboro Baptist church

Anyway, back on topic, did any of you hear about one of the bombers that were caught? Apparently he shot himself in the throat so he wasn't able to speak when he was interrogated.

 

[Airsoft-Ed]

That's pretty mental... Was it definitely not just attempted suicide or something? I think I'd rather kill myself that shoot myself in the throat. What a retard.

But yah. My thoughts on religious text are that they're a general guide to life (or were way back when), written to try and educate people, create a degree of social order and ultimately keep people safe.

For example, Islam forbids people to eat bacon, or any pig stuffs. I think that might've been because before fridges were invented, the only way to store meat was to salt the shite out of it, and pork stuffs still began to rot exceedingly fast. So it was probably safer to just completely avoid it, rather than take the risk. Since it's not like they had the medical know how to help anyone that got terrible food poisoning or what have you.

I imagine if they were to be written again now, a lot of things would be very different.

 

[scorpia4]

They're really not.

Where do people get these facts from? Their mate down the pub???

No pig products or alcohol allowed to be consumed, as stated in the Quran; the same in the Torah and the Bible.

Only difference is most Christians like to change the Bible to how THEY see fit and then call them selves devout... (which explains 'Merica)

I'm not allowed in the pub my dad tells me drinking in public is illegal and so is eating pork. He learned this in Abu Dhabi while he was on detachment with the typhoons. Also to get this information I had to get out my bed, go down stairs and ask him. He and my step mother were sitting on the couch almost naked so please the appreciate the psychological expense I went to to get this information.

 

[Nickona]

For example, Islam forbids people to eat bacon, or any pig stuffs. I think that might've been because before fridges were invented, the only way to store meat was to salt the shite out of it, and pork stuffs still began to rot exceedingly fast. So it was probably safer to just completely avoid it, rather than take the risk. Since it's not like they had the medical know how to help anyone that got terrible food poisoning or what have you.

I imagine if they were to be written again now, a lot of things would be very different.

This is the type of thing I'm talking about, for instance Burkas were never meant to be a religious dress but rather practical dress for deserts and sandstorms etc, but it was then later made into a religious thing.

 

[remus]

They're really not.

Where do people get these facts from? Their mate down the pub???

No pig products or alcohol allowed to be consumed, as stated in the Quran; the same in the Torah and the Bible.

Only difference is most Christians like to change the Bible to how THEY see fit and then call them selves devout... (which explains 'Merica)

actually not entirely right on christins. not eating pork is old testament, therefore jewish. however the rule was with drawn in the newtestament in a vision to saul/paul which explained God made them all so view them all equal(so all foods were to be viewed equal, all people were to be viewed equal) but in the end the whole problem with religion and even science and everything else is when my view ends up being more important than others views so they are not allowed it. and considering most claim their views are supposed to make us all equal the way they go about it...

 

[sp00n]

religion .... in my opinion its either the biggest mercurial or the biggest con ... i carnt decide, but each to there own.

anyway, thats mega messed up with the bomber shooting him self in the throat .... why not just top himself??

 

[Nickona]

religion .... in my opinion its either the biggest mercurial or the biggest con ... i carnt decide, but each to there own.

anyway, thats mega messed up with the bomber shooting him self in the throat .... why not just top himself??

I couldn't actually find anything saying he shot himself in the throat, all I found was Doctors said he was in such a bad state he may not be able to be questioned. If he was shot in the throat I'd imagine it was more likely from the police than himself