Beginner rifle - cm.518 or cyma g36?

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Hi all 
 
I know these guns are both made by the same firm but is there a stand out between the two. I'm assuming the G36 as it's slightly more expensive, but the 518 is a newer model, so was wondering if it might have newer internals? Any help would be greatly appreciated.  

 
If you can also advise what reticle reflex or other optics would be suitable for either gun. Thanks

 
Links to the guns from patrolbase here.
 
https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/cyma-cm-011-g36c-assault-rifle?pv=7406
 
 
https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/cyma-cm-518-m4-w-custom-muzzle-brake


 
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Levelup said:
Hi all 
 
I know these guns are both made by the same firm but is there a stand out between the two. I'm assuming the G36 as it's slightly more expensive, but the 518 is a newer model, so was wondering if it might have newer internals? Any help would be greatly appreciated.  

 
If you can also advise what reticle reflex or other optics would be suitable for either gun. Thanks

 
Links to the guns from patrolbase here.
 
https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/cyma-cm-011-g36c-assault-rifle?pv=7406
 
 
https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/cyma-cm-518-m4-w-custom-muzzle-brake
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CYMA for their AK range is very good. I'm not sure about their other ranges unfortunately.

However, a safe bet with only being slightly more is G&G - https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/g-and-g-armament-cm16-mod0-combat-machine?pv=2686 

 
SgtTalbert said:
Thanks very much for that, very helpful. by the looks of it, doesn't come with a charger by the looks of it, people seem to be talking about needing a auto switch off lipo charger. Will this be suitable for the type of battery supplied, or will I need to upgrade this as I'm buying a charger anyway. Sorry for the newbie questions. 
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CYMA for their AK range is very good. I'm not sure about their other ranges unfortunately.

However, a safe bet with only being slightly more is G&G - https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/g-and-g-armament-cm16-mod0-combat-machine?pv=2686 
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Best starter g36 I’d say is the JG. You can get them for sub £100 from places like Taiwangun. 

Best starter AK is the CYMA stuff. 

Best starter m4 is the ICS sportline. They’re about £150 but they’re much nicer than other ‘starter’ m4’s. 

 
Cheers, will check out the ICS. 

Thanks for the charger and battery advice too. ?

 
Fire-support usually do ICS starter packages with a battery and other little bits 

 
I've been useing my cyma 517 for over 2 years and not had a problem with it but I've not upgraded it or taken it apart. When i got mine from patrol base the guys said they have less back for repairs than any others. But just remember the outside dose look a bit plasticky.... having said that its also still in one peice externally

 
Thanks very much for that. They have been discontinued though. I assume for the newer models.

Thanks for everyone's help. I've bought one now... plus a grip and a closed reflux sight. 

 
Nicky blue eyes said:
I've been useing my cyma 517 for over 2 years and not had a problem with it but I've not upgraded it or taken it apart.
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I wish I'd listened to that advice. :D   That said, my CM.516 performed well for a year before I "upgraded" it.  The CYMA M4s are credible starter guns for the tightest of budgets, if a bit plastic-fantastic.

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Thanks for everyone's help. I've bought one now... plus a grip and a closed reflux sight. 
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Neat, what did you go for in the end?

 
Looks really good in the blue!
I've got a G&G CM16 Mod0 on order with the same twotone blue. Can't wait for it to arrive. :D
Happy airsofting!

 
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Been waiting for all the extras to arrive. As stock with added reflux sight and fore grip. Then with suppressor and extra mags with a 3 point sling. :) need to find a good place on the outskirts of London for a skirmish now. 

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Make sure to get a picatinny protector for that sight! It will quite easily be shot out in CQB. The glass is not replaceable either. 

I recommend either Red 1 Chislehurst or Doomsday near the Kent border if you are in South London. 

If you are in the north then you will need to have a car to get to the north sites by opening. 

If you are east, try Skirmish Billericay or Airsoft Plantation. 

 
Cheers. I did buy a plastic protector, but it's the wrong type of fitting. I need to get a rail mounted one now. I am in SW London(zone 2). Happy to drive, but it's always a nightmare bursting through traffic on the inside of the M25. Thanks for the recommendations. ?

Gun came in 5 days. Got it for a steal at £95 and free shipping. 

I ordered extras from gunfire.com. happy with must if the bits that came from there. Quite a bit cheaper than buying from uk., But downside is flat rate shipping if £15 so you need to be buying a decent amount of things for it to be worth it. Delivery from Poland was still speedy at about a week. 

 
Levelup said:
Cheers. I did buy a plastic protector, but it's the wrong type of fitting. I need to get a rail mounted one now. I am in SW London(zone 2). Happy to drive, but it's always a nightmare bursting through traffic on the inside of the M25. Thanks for the recommendations. ?

Gun came in 5 days. Got it for a steal at £95 and free shipping. 

I ordered extras from gunfire.com. happy with must if the bits that came from there. Quite a bit cheaper than buying from uk., But downside is flat rate shipping if £15 so you need to be buying a decent amount of things for it to be worth it. Delivery from Poland was still speedy at about a week. 
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For South West London I recommend EAG Dorking. One of the better sites down there without going too far away from London. 

 
spill the beans. where did you pick up that g36 tt? let us (me, as it is my preferred starter platform) know how it chronos and plays! 

 
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