Another Scumbag to Watch Out for

[Super64]

Watch out for sales by Josh Suvekette/Lucas Perkins

So the other night I saw a VFC Glock 17 with spare mag and holster for sale on Airsoft Nation for £50 under the name Josh Suvekette. Obviously, that’s a very low price and the picture, description weren’t the best, so I was on my guard when I messaged Josh. I asked him if the gun was still for sale and if he could send me some more pictures, providing my email. His reply was very short, basically yes it’s still for sale. I then immediately received a payment request from PayPal for £50 in the name of Lucas Perkins. Alarm bells started ringing, but I messaged back asking again for pictures with our names on a handwritten note and why was the PayPal request from a Lucas Perkins. He replied that it was his uncle's PayPal and when I pressed for more pictures he said it had sold. 
 

Today I’ve seen a post on Airsoft Nation from a guy saying he had bought the gun, but it wasn’t posted. When he chased this up with the seller he got a phone call saying “I’ve scammed you.” Apparently this seller has other items up for sale, so definitely one to be wary of.

 

[Skullchewer]

I imagine this level of dickhead isn't too fussed about who he's selling to either.

 

[Skara]

Today I’ve seen a post on Airsoft Nation from a guy saying he had bought the gun, but it wasn’t posted. When he chased this up with the seller he got a phone call saying “I’ve scammed you.” Apparently this seller has other items up for sale, so definitely one to be wary of.

Let me guess, Friends and Family payment?

Who the fuck still pays with F&F in 2020?

 

[Super64]

Skullchewer, he never asked me for UKARA or mentioned defence at all.

Skara, the PayPal request was friends and family. I don’t mind paying f&f if it’s someone I know or has a decent reputation and it’s under £100, especially as PayPal won’t cover gun sales. But in this case I was never going to pay f&f.

 

[Skara]

Skara, the PayPal request was friends and family. I don’t mind paying f&f if it’s someone I know or has a decent reputation and it’s under £100, especially as PayPal won’t cover gun sales. But in this case I was never going to pay f&f.

NEVER pay by F&F unless it's someone you can find and kneecap easily.

 

[Samurai]

PP does cover airsoft sales now.

 

[Super64]

Does it? That’s good to know. Does that include private sales or is it just business?

 

[Guest]

Does it? That’s good to know. Does that include private sales or is it just business?

All sales ??

 

[Tommikka]

PayPal updated their terms to permit 'gun related' payments again where the items are legal within the country concerned.

 

[ak2m4]

I'm 99% sure you cannot request a friends and family payment through PayPal, can only be given manually from an account.  Could be wrong, need to verify this.

 

[Rogerborg]

I'm 99% sure you cannot request a friends and family payment through PayPal, can only be given manually from an account.  Could be wrong, need to verify this.

Going through https://www.paypal.com/myaccount/transfer/homepage/request and requesting money from another version of myself it appears to be a F&F payment - there's no mention of fees at either end.

That's distinct from an invoice https://www.paypal.com/invoice/create which is what I send and ask people to send, and which does attract fees and has the protections.

Although I'm way less than 99% sure of that.

 

[Tackle]

Ok, tried to bait him with a trade for an address, no joy, he wants cash via bank transfer as he alledged he's not old enough for a PayPal account ?

Dunno if anyone can do anything with these ?

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[Adolf Hamster]

As much as i'm against scammers and have sympathy for their victims, posting the guys bank details for all and sundry seems a tad ott no?

I mean we've already named and shamed the guy so folk should know to avoid.

 

[DrAlexanderTobacco]

Scammers use stolen bank accounts all the time, best to leave them out. Send everything onto ActionFraud and move on imo

 

[Tackle]

TBH I'm not the most IT literate person, but scammers really get up my nose, so if putting literally any info that's relative to them in to the public domain & therefore might curtail their activities, f#ck it, so be it.

 

[Parttimeplinker]

Ad is still up but the link to his details is dead so hopefully he’s been kicked off the website 

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[RonLancs]

It’s obvious why these people operate but I just don’t understand what goes through their minds. Is it desperation or what? Ultimately they’re gonna get caught out. Like surely can’t your bank do something when you don’t receive the item? 

 

[Parttimeplinker]

Unfortunately not. Banks do not have the power to remove funds from someone else’s bank account without a court order and this scenario would be a civil matter. It’s infuriating but I think these rules are in place to prevent scammers gaining access to bank funds via the bank itself. Desperate or not I think scammers are scumbags. And cowards. Hiding behind their anonymity online and preying on people’s naivety. A lump hammer to the back of the hands would be too good for them

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[RonLancs]

Indeed. You couldn’t even take it through small claims court as I believe it’s now a minimum of £1000.00. Really is a sh***y move. I suppose all we can do is blackball them from forums such as this. 
 

When I sell an item it gets to me that people are dubious of me, naturally I understand why but I always go the extra mile to ensure they know all is well with videos, receipts for postage and the like. 
 

Gives sellers a bad rep. 

 

[Parttimeplinker]

I’ve always been a fan of feedback. I always like to leave positive comments when I’ve dealt with sellers on here. Unfortunately I have had to leave negative feedback once but then that’s what it’s here for.