airsoft sites with vehicles and other unusual things

Aloksak 32"x12" bag sealed to 60m depth. About £23.

You might want to pack it in a normal drysack with all the air expelled, just to give some additional mechanical protection.

 
ideally you'd have one of the marshals place your gun on the beach where you'd be coming out of the water, removes a lot of the risk then.

 
I noticed the Sandpit did the waterborne insertion without anybody wearing lifejackets. If anybody went over the side, they would struggle with all that gear on. Those quarry pits are deep and cold. On the waterborne stuff I've done, we always wear self inflating lifejackets - available in olive or camo.

 
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Good shout on the dry bag, double bagging would definitely be the way forward, and you are right truthfully it would be much better giving the kit to a marshal or cashing it somewhere before hand. I'd also give a SEAL type swimming insertion a go as well, but it'd have to be night time and light reflecting on the surface of the water would be a concern.

I was struggling to see any flotation for the people on the rib, I wouldn't do that, even if I left the padding in the plate carrier.

I have experience of diving in quarries and you are damn right about depth and cold. The thermoclines don't tend to be very deep but the differences in temperature can be significant.

 
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There was a helicopter insertion in Rionegro Escalation in Bellurgan park recently :)


They also have a Hilux gun truck and I think they bring in some small lorries as gun trucks for larger OPs.

 
The guys on the sandpit vids are wearing floatation aids ;) least in the ones I've seen

I certainly wouldn't expect anything less from ucap/Stirling

 
If you look carefully, you can see that they are wearing olive green floatation devices over their shoulders which is enough. They aren't the bright orange ones that go round your whole chest.

 
Watched again, Yes you are right, they are wearing PFDs. I take it back. Apologies.

 
HAHA stupid computer playing low quality and my poor memory, there are PFD's on those players in the rib. My bad! Knowing how UCAP work and Stirling there is no way they would not have them should have double checked before posting.

Still having stood on the edge of the pit looking in on stupidly hot days in the summer their hardline stance about no entering the water is hard to take, especially when it looks so refreshing.

 
Ah Ian, you know your gagging for a helicopter insertion now though!! :lol:

I'm not entirely sure i'd be up for it myself what with me being a bit of a tight wad, oh, and scared of heights!!! :o
Oh yeah that's what I meant, in a heartbeat!

I abseiled out of a Sea King head first once when I was a teen in the ATC. I'd abseiled before and I knew I'd never get another chance in the foreseeable future, so I used an extra carabiner on my figure of 8 and went for it! To the surprise and consternation of the RAF instructors mind :lol:

Not so much these days mind, or fast rope either, but I'd abseil backwards no probs. Still, you would have numpties whinging on about H&S because yeah, in a world where we must guard against the possibility that if there's no warning on a hammer, some penis will sue when they hit their thumb with it, somebody would make it their business to imagine the preposterous series of events that could result in a helicopter being shot down by a BB and make a song and dance about insurance.

Can't say I've ever fancied a beach assault, mind. It's the whole water in the boots scenario. I'll man the support weapon on the boat and ye all do the splashing around!

 
I hear that fast roping had been replaced by rapid descenders in some circles.

iirc two US servicemen were killed during a ship boarding from helos.

I was talking to somebody recently in one of the forces that routinely do this and they were saying H+S is entering this area as well.

 
TBF, fast roping is fcuking dangerous. If there's a way to do it that doesn't take any more time to get the soldier away on the ground and is safer, then fair dos.

 
I hear that fast roping had been replaced by rapid descenders in some circles.

iirc two US servicemen were killed during a ship boarding from helos.

I was talking to somebody recently in one of the forces that routinely do this and they were saying H+S is entering this area as well.
Not happening in the RN/RM anytime soon, fastroping for opposed boarding of ships is here to stay. Rapid descenders add a couple of seconds at the bottom of the rope which is more of a risk than the fastroping itself.

 
Ucap has gone on the list blue water is not far as well

 
Im not far away either chris.

See the other thread re UCAP Sandpit.

 
Am I imagining this or are they returning fire from the ground at 2:10 onwards ?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BvWdO0t0bg

 
"Tan players are the targets, those casually walking around are referees/civis.
All players were forbidden to aim anything at the two helicopters present, for obvious reasons.
Game Organizers Hired/Rented the pilots & helicopters to add a new mechanic to the game.
Next year they will have Anti-Air."

No, highly doubt they did. You may have just seen the BB's coming out of the gun but being thrown off course a bit by the heli blades

 
Sounds maybe over the top but what do you guys think of this idea? So say each team has a couple of vehicles, lets use trucks for this example. and each team has two guys with a "launcher", this launcher, when fired, shoots out an IR beam, like a laser tag gun at various receptors on the trucks, and when triggered, the receptor could you an electric charge to detonate a pyro, or, just set of an alarm to say this vehicle is deactivated? It could be interesting. One of the things I came up with in another boring day at school :lol:

 
In the world of real events, where the probable happens pretty much every time, where the highly improbable event which could cause horrendous consequences is always spotted and dealt with in time by one or more quick thinking, decisive individuals...

...who btw is/are not the sort of person/s who listen/s to H&S briefings and think/s "yeah, if something goes wrong it's somebody else's responsibility and I can just let the emergency services deal with it", rather t/s/he/y think/s, "well yeah, if something gets right out of hand, these procedures need to be followed, but if I just deal with it right at the start, it won't get out of hand"...

...there's no reason why we couldn't shoot firework stylee rockets carrying a MK V size bang as a payload at each other and vehicles, out of whatever tubes we could disguise as RS weapons...

...but bollocks to trying to get it past an insurer!

 
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